Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Entertainment/2007 March 8

= March 8 =

Cover Songs
For a band to perform a cover version of a song by another artist, what permission do they need (and is this the same for when they have that cover song on an album or as a release?), and what royalties do they pay? Also, for TV shows like Aus Idol, do the producers have to ask for the original artist's permission for every song that are performed on their show? 06:55, 8 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I remember reading a while back that you don't need anybody's permission to perform your own version. But, but by default, you will have to pay royalties. This site seems to confirm that too: http://www.cleverjoe.com/articles/music_copyright_law.html (A quote from the site: "Once a song has been commercially released by an artist, that artist's song may be re-recorded and released by anyone who chooses to do so. This holds true, provided that the melody/lyric isn't substantially altered in the 'cover' version, and that they pay proper fees/royalties directly to the song's copyright holder."). I also remember some documentary with Mick Jagger, he was at some party (or something) and this little girl asked him if Britney Spears got his permission to do a cover of Satisfaction, and he said no and that Spears didn't need to. For shows like idol, I imagine that all the songs that are sung on the show are already owned by which ever record label is involvewd with the show, so they probably already own the rights to the songs. - Akamad 08:02, 8 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Anecdote that might help: Folk artist Jeffrey Gaines made a name for himself in the US a few years back with a cover of Peter Gabriel's song "In Your Eyes" -- I saw him in concert a few years later, and before he played the cover, he made a point of explaining to the audience that he liked the song, but really hoped people would buy his whole album if they liked the cover, and further asked that we ask radio stations to play his OTHER songs, because he wasn't making any money off of the cover, and Peter Gabriel really didn't need the money. Jfarber 11:21, 8 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Another anecdote: Weird Al. He doesn't have to, but he gets permission to use the songs that he parodies and then he gives half the profits to the original artist (again, he doesn't have to do that).  Some artists are smart (such as Michael Jackson) and offer assistance in recording the song and making a video because it is basically free money for them.  Some are concerned about their image (such as Prince) and refuse to give permission to parody their work.  Then, there's Coolio, who doesn't remember what he said.
 * And, another anecdote: A car company wants to use Led Zeppelin for their commercial's music.  Led Zeppelin says "absolutely not."  So, they get some studio band to do a cover of Led Zeppelin's music in a way that it sounds exactly like the original music and they use the cover for their commercial - never implying that it is a cover song. --Kainaw (talk) 17:02, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Parody is a whole different ball game though. The right to parody is a very strongly and consistantly protected American right oddly enough. I've never heard of a case where someone was able to sucessfully sure over copyright infringement, slander, etc. over parody. Straight copying, as covers are, is a different matter though.--SeizureDog 17:30, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
 * The Straight Dope covers this with a clear explanation. Clarityfiend 17:22, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Bands, composers, and broadcasters join, and pay a fee to, the Australasian Performing Rights Association, allowing them to play any song they wish and receive royalties. Periodically, radio and TV stations (and possibly other media) are asked to write down every song they play for a week (APRA week), to determine the distribution of royalties. Aus Idol wouldn't be any different, I'd imagine. Natgoo 19:10, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Music in 1770
I need information about music in 1770? Like artist and who did what in the music industry? Any kind of music that had too do with the year 1770! I need some fact that are interesting! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 169.232.213.142 (talk) 08:11, 8 March 2007 (UTC).
 * All facts are interesting.hotclaws**== 10:36, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
 * 1770 in music may be useful--Melburnian 10:45, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Film Title set in N England with English Subtitles
I am trying to identify the name of a film title released in UK (probably in 1990s ?) which was set in North East England (I believe) on a seaside caravan park.

The marked feature of this film is that despite being in English, the accents were so strong that subtitles were also provided in English for the first 20 minutes or so until the audience had become familiar with the accents.

Can you help, please ?

regards, David Langford Dlangfor 12:41, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I believe you are thinking of Sweet Sixteen by Ken Loach. It's set in Scotland, not north-east England, but a caravan park does feature in the plot.  And the Scottish accents are indeed fairly impenetrable to those not attuned to the dialect.  I have heard the story about subtitles, and I believe it is true, but they were only included on the American release of the film. --Richardrj talkemail 13:10, 8 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I have seen a number of English-language films exhibited with English-language subtitles theatrically because of the supposedly thick accents. Two recent ones that come to mind are Pavee Lackeen (film) and Red Road (film). --Mathew5000 13:41, 8 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Trainspotting? 惑乱 分からん * \)/ (\ (&lt; \) (2 /) /)/ * 15:09, 8 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Not just movies either. I've seen this in documetaries, reality shows, and stuff. And not just with Irish or Scottish accents but also Jamaican, Malaysian... Nil Einne 15:27, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

What is this movie?
Ok, this is driving me absolutely insane, I must think of what this film is. All I can remember is that it's a science fiction type film that involves a writer who uses a typewriter and there's some scene about meeting a bugman at a bar or something. Drugs were probably involved, as I think it was one of those films where reality is completely disorted by the character's wacked brain. My memory of it is so vague, it's killing me. It should be semi-famous, not incredibly underground or anything. Little help here?--SeizureDog 17:25, 8 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Sounds like Naked Lunch (film): . StuRat 17:53, 8 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Naked Lunch! That's it. I had a feeling the title had nothing to do with the film. That's why it was so hard to recall; nothing to help attach it to. Thanks man :)--SeizureDog 19:25, 8 March 2007 (UTC)


 * You're quite welcome, dude. StuRat 20:12, 8 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Sounds very like Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas (film) Algebraist 18:29, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Song Download
Is there a download of the SouthSide Irish song?

The Doctor - Chapter And Versea
Does anyone know what fate had in store for Target Books who used to publish the Doctor Who novels, both in hard and soft back? I think they ran from the 1960s all the way to the 1990s. In particular, the first one published, 'Doctor Who And An Amazing Adventure With The Daleks', which gave a much better introduction to the Doctor, Susan and the TARDIS than the TV show ever did. Conundrum2a 20:55, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Try the Target Books article. --Hugh Charles Parker (talk - contribs) 23:23, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I should have guessed that Richard & Co. would get hispaws on that one - conundrum2a

Fame by Irene Cara
I am trying to listen to the song Fame by Irene Cara, but I don't see a blog that will let me hear it.Can you help me? --24.62.74.24 22:34, 8 March 2007 (UTC) steph
 * Blog? Possibly it's streamed somewhere. Try googling it... 惑乱 分からん * \)/ (\ (&lt; \) (2 /) /)/ * 23:54, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Try iTunes. You can listen for 30 seconds for free, or own the song legally for 99¢. --72.202.150.92 03:51, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

song lyrics
i would like to know the name of the song where the artist sings " my mind is telling me no, but my body is telling me yes."

james earl jones


 * "Bump N' Grind" by R. Kelly. There's a cover version for older people: "My mind is telling me yes, but my body my body is telling me no." Clarityfiend 00:50, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Is that the one by Grandma Kelly? Sʟυмgυм • т • c  00:54, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Heh, reminds me of the scene from the Chappelle's Show skit, "Thats my Robert, always peein' on somebody." Cyraan 01:42, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
 * The real James Earl Jones? − Twas Now ( talk • contribs • e-mail ) 23:39, 9 March 2007 (UTC)


 * There are probably quite a few JEJ's, and I'm sure they're all real. :)  JackofOz 02:53, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

what is the title of this film i saw???
I watched a film about 2 years ago in a cinema in Spain - it was subtitled into spanish so i assume the original language was urdu perhaps? it was about the hindu-muslim divide in india, and the plot followed the story of a hindu woman, who rather than commit suicide and jump down a well, chose to run away and live as muslim - so she hid her identity, and raised her son as muslim. he later in the film becomes radicalised by some people he meets, and when he finds out the truth about her origins rejects her completely.

what was this film called, does anyone know? i recall it had something about water in the title? although maybe i am wrong.... please help.

thank you.

82.42.72.5 23:44, 8 March 2007 (UTC)


 * There was a 2005 flim from India called Water, although the subject matter doesn't seem to match. Sʟυмgυм • т • c  00:46, 9 March 2007 (UTC)


 * You're probably thinking of a Pakistani film, Khamosh Pani, known in English as either Silent Water or Silent Waters. According to IMDb it was released in Spain on 2005-02-25 . I found it on this film syllabus of a course at Lewis & Clark College, which I found by Googling movie|film india son muslim suicide hindu. --Mathew5000 03:23, 9 March 2007 (UTC)