Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Entertainment/2008 December 14

= December 14 =

Shirley Temple
Why is there such a gap between the acclaim and love of the Depression-era and a modern "hatedom" represented by people cheering when she's eaten by King Kong in the Simpsons. Paul Austin (talk) 00:54, 14 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I wasn't aware anyone really hated Shirley Temple. I always thought she was a fairly competant diplomat for the U.S.  Represented our interests well abroad.  Do people really feel that strongly about her?  I would read too much into an obtuse reference in a Simpsons episode either... --Jayron32. talk . contribs  02:56, 14 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I'd say any overexposed celebrity causes people to eventually get sick of them, especially if they're typecast, as Shirley Temple was (I'd have liked to see her in a movie like "The Bad Seed", to change her image). Shirley wasn't able to make it as an adult actress, partially because of this. StuRat (talk) 06:20, 14 December 2008 (UTC)


 * There's often a gap between popular opinion and that of the knowing ironic over-educated types who write for The Simpsons; they make jokes about lots of more recent celebrities, and the show probably reflects the writers' attitude more than perceptions of public mood (if you showed someone genuinely hated, like Adolf Hitler or Leni Riefenstahl or Myra Hindley it wouldn't be so funny or transgressive). Even in Temple's heyday as a star, some cynical intellectual types like Graham Greene were very rude about her.


 * The biggest celebrities of bygone days don't often keep their luster (erstwhile screen hunks like Rudolph Valentino, Alan Ladd, and Victor Mature are today variously ignored or mocked - all most people now know about Ladd is him standing on a box), and even stars who keep their fame like Frank Sinatra are fair game for the Simpsons (in fairness, Temple probably never had links to organized crime). People are particularly suspicious of old-style child stars and children dolled up in glamorous fashion following things like theJonBenet Ramsay murder and tragic Hollywood life stories like that of Judy Garland.


 * Furthermore, Temple films such as Reconstruction-era drama The Littlest Rebel may be viewed as racist or at least politically dubious by people today. So it would be surprising if Temple got much respect from the show's makers; she should be glad to have been mentioned at all.  (I recall that at one point the young Montgomery Burns appeared with blonde curls looking surprisingly like Temple.) --Maltelauridsbrigge (talk) 13:08, 15 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I believe young Burns had the Little Lord Fauntleroy look, as in this pic: . StuRat (talk) 15:19, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Need help searching LexisNexis for Milo and Otis references
Back when I had access to LexisNexis I was able to find references to animal cruelty allegations against Milo and Otis: I need the titles and authors of these articles -- can anyone help?--The lorax (talk) 02:15, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) ^ Hobart Mercury; September 18, 1990.
 * 2) ^ The Sunday Mail (Brisbane); April 15, 1990
 * I don't know, but if you post your request on the Resource Request page someone should be able to help you. --Richardrj talkemail 08:15, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Looking for songs for a "fashion" mix CD
Hey all! I am prone to assembling mixes for my own and others' amusement and currently I'm trying to put together a collection of songs in a "matter of appearances" theme. Songs about clothing, jewelry, makeup, hairstyles, and other aesthetic matters. Here's a sampling of what I have so far:


 * Sparks - Moustache
 * They Might Be Giants - Bangs
 * Frank Black - Fu Manchu
 * Natalie Portman's Shaved Head - Beard Lust
 * Gunnar Madsen - The Pants
 * Cake - Short Skirt/Long Jacket

Thanks for any suggestions you can offer! Esoteric, mainstream, songbook stuff, whatever you can think of! Poechalkdust (talk) 13:30, 14 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Bob Dylan - Leopard-Skin Pill-Box Hat
 * Pepso2 (talk) 13:51, 14 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Blue Suede Shoes.
 * These Boots Are Made for Walkin'
 * Top Hat, White Tie and Tails
 * --Shantavira|feed me 13:57, 14 December 2008 (UTC)


 * The Ad Libs - The Boy from New York City (1965)
 * --Bus stop (talk) 14:33, 14 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Venus in Furs, by the Velvet Underground
 * Arnold Layne, by Pink Floyd
 * Baggy Trousers, by Madness
 * Sharp Dressed Man, by ZZ TOP
 * Paninaro, by the Pet Shop Boys
 * The Model, by Kraftwerk
 * Fashion, by David Bowie
 * Ain't Goin to Goa, by the Alabama 3
 * Prince Charming, by Adam and the Ants
 * --DuncanHill (talk) 14:37, 14 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Dedicated Follower of Fashion by The Kinks. Adam Bishop (talk) 14:53, 14 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Culture Club, Karma Chameleon (1984)


 * Paul Simon, Kodachrome (1973)


 * The Hollies, Bus Stop (1966)
 * --Bus stop (talk) 15:49, 14 December 2008 (UTC)


 * "Puttin' On the Ritz"
 * —Tamfang (talk) 22:53, 14 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Haven't seen any heavy metal yet, so let me nominate Hell Bent for Leather by Judas Priest. --Jayron32. talk . contribs  01:38, 15 December 2008 (UTC)


 * And, to get as far from heavy metal as possible, Raspberry Beret by Mr. Nelson. You know, the kind you find in a second hand store?--Jayron32. talk . contribs  03:52, 15 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Bob Dylan – Man in the Long Black Coat 1989 and
 * The Killers – Bling 2006
 * Paul Simon – Diamonds on the Soles of Her Shoes
 * speaking of the Hollies, Long Cool Woman in a Black Dress Julia Rossi (talk) 07:32, 15 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Suzanne Vega, "Stockings". --Richardrj talkemail 08:18, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Loreena McKennitt among so many covers,Greensleeves – Julia Rossi (talk) 09:20, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Two numbers from the Great American Songbook, for old time's sake: ---Sluzzelin talk  09:18, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
 * "Puttin' on the Ritz" (by Irving Berlin who also wrote "Top Hat, White Tie and Tails" mentioned above) (added a few minutes later: Oops, Tamfang already mentioned it, sorry.)
 * "They Can't Take That Away from Me" (George and Ira Gershwin). Alright, only the first line "The way you wear your hat ...", but that first line is so memorable, it's even the title of a Frank Sinatra biography.
 * (could be the title here, even) Julia Rossi (talk) 09:36, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

For bikinis, there are "Itsy Bitsy Teenie Weenie Yellow Polka Dot Bikini", and maybe "Rebel Girl" by Bikini Kill. But Gogol Bordello's fashion tip is "Start Wearing Purple" ("... for me now. All your sanity and wits they will all vanish, I promise, it's just a matter of time") ---Sluzzelin talk  09:53, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Polythene Pam, the Beatles. --NorwegianBluetalk 10:20, 15 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Another Bikini song: The Cramps - Bikini Girls With Machine Guns --Jayron32. talk . contribs 13:11, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

---Sluzzelin talk  13:13, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
 * "Zoot Suit" by The Who
 * "Millionaire's Dream" (Big Tymers featuring Lil' Wayne) for some more bling-bling, see article for other examples.


 * Depeche Mode, "Dressed in Black" and "New Dress", both on the Black Celebration album. -- LarryMac  | Talk  13:39, 15 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Back in Black, by ACDC of course. DuncanHill (talk) 13:59, 15 December 2008 (UTC)


 * The Lady in Red (Chris de Burgh song)
 * Men in Black (song)
 * Hi-Heel Sneakers
 * “Shiny Stockings” composed by Frank Foster (musician)
 * “Golden Earrings” composed by Victor Young --Oda Mari (talk) 17:19, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

"Red Dress" by Alvin Stardust "Ride a White Swan" by T Rex (wear a tall hat like a druid in the old days/wear a tall hat and a tattooed gown) "I'm Too Sexy" by Right Said Fred ("I'm too sexy for my shirt" - and my god he is too!) --TammyMoet (talk) 18:32, 15 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I can't believe nobody's mentioned the Thong Song. 216.239.234.196 (talk) 17:35, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Single Ladies
Hello, does anybody know the names or stage names of the two Ladies (especially to Beyoncé's left hand side) next to Beyoncé in her Video "Single Ladies"? – http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=5N-T3CG0SOY – Thank you, Doc Taxon (talk) 14:19, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Clone Wars
I missed Star Wars: Clone Wars on friday. Can anybody tell me when Cartoon Network will show the episode on it's site? I know it's on again tonight but so is the last episode of Survivor: Gabon and I want to watch that too.--Pufferfish4 (talk) 19:46, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
 * The episodes usually appear a few hours after broadcast, though episode 10 doesn't appear to have been added. You can watch it here on supernovatube or maybe find a torrent. SN0WKITT3N  13:35, 15 December 2008 (UTC)