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= December 24 =

K below double bar
I have an Urtext version of Beethoven's 21st piano sonata "Waldstein". Underneath the double bar at the end of the last movement is a letter "K". Any idea what this means? Could it possible have anything to do with the fact that the last pedal marking of the piece is never closed with a "*"? Asmeurer ( talk   ♬  contribs ) 05:17, 24 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I don't know, but for what it is worth, the Dover edition I have does not have a K, or anything at all, below the final double bar. Pfly (talk) 23:50, 24 December 2008 (UTC)


 * My Schirmer edition has no K either, or any other symbol. Urtext normal-size print editions usually contain copious notes, so you might wish to check them out.  I have a small-print Urtext edition of the complete Beethoven piano works, but there's no K where you say in the Waldstein.  --  JackofOz (talk) 21:13, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Extremely late, but was that a Henle edition? I think they use these letters to indicate something like print runs or changes from the original print, but I don't remember exactly. As for the last pedal mark not being closed, I would interpret that simply to mean that the pedal should be held for a while past the end of the last bar. Double sharp (talk) 04:32, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes it is. I also have editions of other Beethoven sonatas and they all have different letters under the last double bar. Op. 28 (Pastorale) has an A, Op. 13 (Pathétique) has a P, and Op. 57 (Appassionata) has an M. All G. Henle Verlag. asmeurer  ( talk  |  contribs ) 22:33, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

Searching for a good song for a theme
I need a particularly great song-that falls within the category of Classic Rock or something akin to that-that can be remembered for millennia on its very own; but I need it to be something very particular.

It has to represent a loneliness within the phsyche of the protagonist of the series, and thus invoke similar feelings; however, it must have a sense of hope as well, deriving from the unknowable events of the future and what it may bring. Preferably, it should be pretty fast but not too fast, around 2 beats a second or so should suffice.

Something bluesy and or funky would be a great addition. In terms of bluesy, something like Led Zeppelin's "In My Time of Dying" would be very good, and in terms of funk something like Band of Gyspsy's "Who Knows" or "Led Zeppelin" would be equally appreciated.

Thank you in advance and I hope you can assist me in this particularly maddening dilemma.76.109.202.110 (talk) 05:25, 24 December 2008 (UTC)


 * How about the 1972 song A Horse with No Name, by America (band): . It talks about riding through the desert alone, so there's the loneliness part.  But things get better at the end.  One warning, it may contain drug references. StuRat (talk) 08:21, 24 December 2008 (UTC)


 * And, sticking with horse-themed 1970's classic rock, how about Wildfire (song): . StuRat (talk) 08:26, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Don't know if it fits, but there's R.E.M. Losing my religion and Everybody Hurts awaiting your arrangement. Julia Rossi (talk) 09:34, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
 * The Fool on the Hill? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.97.245.5 (talk) 10:08, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Under the Bridge and Scar Tissue by the Red Hot Chili Peppers. cheers and happy holidays to everyone! 10draftsdeep (talk) 18:07, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
 * a Christmas gift has reminded me of another good one: Message in a Bottle (song) cheers, 10draftsdeep (talk) 15:06, 27 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Not uplifting in any real sense, but I'm rather enamoured of Dogs by Pink Floyd and especially Wish You Were Here. &mdash;  The Hand That Feeds You :Bite 03:01, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Help finding Call Letters for a local station.
I was wondering if anyone can help me figure out the call letters for channel 10, NBC, on the Access Cable network in McCreary County KY. I know that Access reroutes a signal from Dish Network to provide their service if that helps.204.116.189.237 (talk) 06:44, 24 December 2008 (UTC)


 * WBIR, out of Knoxville, Tennessee. You can find this type of thing with Antenna Web: . StuRat (talk) 08:08, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Down Tuning Bass Guitar
The sheet music for a song (Revolution - The Beatles) indicates that I should tune down my bass by 1/4 of a step. I had never heard of tuning down 1/4 step and my tuner only work with half steps. Neither the song's article nor the bass guitar article seem to know; Does anyone know what tuning would this leave my strings on and how can I tune them down to it? Thanks! PabloClark (talk) 18:09, 24 December 2008 (UTC)


 * That really means that the Beatles' instruments were all tuned to the same pitch, presumably by ear (so they weren't in "concert tuning"), or more likely, since this often happens with Beatles songs, the track was sped up (or down) slightly so the instruments sound 1/4 step out of tune. Unless you are playing along with the track it's not really necessary to retune your strings. But assuming you are (since I also like to do that), it depends on the type of tuner you have. I have one like this that shows you how many cents you've gone, and you can tune in 1/4 steps manually; I also have one like this where I can't do that. Maybe there is an online tuner that would work? Adam Bishop (talk) 18:54, 24 December 2008 (UTC)


 * As noted, it only really matters if you are actually trying to play along with the recording. If you're just going to play by yourself, or with a band, just tune all of your instruments to standard tuning and it will sound fine.  --Jayron32. talk . contribs  02:02, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Editing font
Why was this font changed in past 24 hours? I now find it more difficult to write and edit. What happened? Pepso2 (talk) 21:26, 24 December 2008 (UTC)


 * It's been fixed. Pepso2 (talk) 22:19, 24 December 2008 (UTC)