Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Entertainment/2008 December 30

= December 30 =

Humanitarian Bowl
Why is there a college bowl game in Boise, Idaho, of all places? -- Mwalcoff (talk) 03:44, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Why shouldn't there be? It generates money for the economy, helps the schools involved, etc....  Dismas |(talk) 03:54, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Because the people who run the bowl game have valid contracts with NCAA conferences to host teams from those conferences in a bowl game. Other bowl games occur in equally small cities and out-of-the-way places such as the Independence Bowl in Shreveport, LA and the Sun Bowl in El Paso, Texas.  Plus, the Humanitarian Bowl has the coolness factor of being played on the Smurf Turf... --Jayron32. talk . contribs  04:05, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, but at least it's warm in El Paso. If they can have a game in Boise, what's to stop them from having a game in Chicago or Boston? -- Mwalcoff (talk) 02:04, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Or Toronto: International Bowl? Or Detroit: Motor City Bowl?  What's wrong with cold weather bowl games?  And if a group came up with a package, and secured tie-ins with NCAA conferences, then sure one could happen in Chicago or Boston.  No problem there... --Jayron32. talk . contribs  02:13, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Toronto and Detroit are indoors. Boise is the only bowl game played outdoors in a real cold-weather city. -- Mwalcoff (talk) 03:47, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
 * The original idea was that a bowl game was a treat to reward a team that had performed well during the season. It was an exhibition, and involved travel to an exotic and warm locale over the school holiday break (the travel included not only the team, but large numbers of students, alumni and other fans). Obviously, it's not as much of a treat if players and fans have to slog through a muddy field in sub-zero weather. The first of these non-traditional bowl games was, if I remember correctly, the Garden State Bowl played in the Meadowlands from 1978 to 1981. That particular bowl game no longer exists, and the article states that frigid playing conditions contributed to its demise, but there have been a few others played in colder places over the years. --Xuxl (talk) 15:06, 31 December 2008 (UTC)


 * re: "Boise is the only bowl game played outdoors in a real cold-weather city." I was at the EagleBank Bowl and it was damn cold in D.C. that day. —D. Monack talk 06:38, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

odd fixtures
when will man utd become level on games played with the other teams? they are still two matches behind and half the season is over.i'm really getting confused.--scoobydoo (talk) 05:02, 30 December 2008 (UTC)


 * They are playing Wigan on January 14th and Fulham on Tuesday 17th February - those are the two games they have so far missed, so provided they don't have these (or other) games rearranged they will have caught up their missed games by February 18th. 194.221.133.226 (talk) 09:10, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

thanks a lot--59.93.193.206 (talk) 15:28, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm glad someone knew what you're talking about... I have only to guess that it has something to do with soccer/football.  Dismas |(talk) 20:29, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Football, yes. At any one time the state of the teams is measured by the league table, which shows matches played, won, drawn and lost, goals scored and conceded, and points scored to date.  The fixture list is irregular, i.e. not all teams play on the same dates.  So it may be that one team is ahead of another in the league by virtue of having won more games, but they have also played more games than their rivals (we say that the team which has played fewer games has 'games in hand').  Clearly this does not give the full picture of who is in the best position at any one time, hence the OP's question. --Richardrj talkemail 20:55, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Dismas |(talk) 03:40, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

CSI
In the CSI episode Feeling the Heat, at the end does the woman fall on her chair in tiredness, or does she have a heatstroke? I expect she's tired, it's just that CSI episodes end very abruptly, :)-- Editor510  drop us a line, mate  09:29, 30 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Being fiction, if not expressly stated in the show, it would be nothing but wild speculation as to the writer's intent in that scene. In other words, your guess is as valid as anyone elses would be.  --Jayron32. talk . contribs  18:17, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
 * She's a main-freakin'-character! HOW THE HELL CAN I DO THAT?! It's right at the end. Last few seconds before credits.-- Editor510  drop us a line, mate  19:28, 30 December 2008 (UTC)


 * 1) Yelling and faux-swearing at people who are VOLUNTEERING to attempt to help you is not good form. 2) The episode recap at TV.com (which is linked from the article) does not mention anything similar to what you've described; the final scene in their synopsis say "Catherine goes to her car, gets in and checks the temperature: 135 degrees. She shuts the door, and watches as the temperature rises to 136... 137... ".  3) There are two other episode pages linked from the article, perhaps one of them would have more useful for you.  -- LarryMac  | Talk  21:31, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

She leans back into her car seat because the heat has made her wilt. This sort of means both your interpretations are right. It would be a bit intense to call it heat stroke, as she doesn't actually collapse or anything, but she has flaked out due to the heat. The connection between her leaning back and the heat is made clear by this transcript of the episode:

"CATHERINE walks out to her car. She gets inside and shuts the door. She turns on the temperature gauge. It reads: 135 degrees F inside temp.)

(CATHERINE leans back in her seat and watches as the temperature rises. 136 ... 137 ... )

(Camera holds on CATHERINE. She sighs.)

(Blur out.)

FADE TO BLACK. "

There's nothing seriously wrong with her as it's not mentioned in the next episode. Heat has this effect on all of us, eddie might well not be able to remember that as our summers in the UK have been awful in recent years.:) Sticky Parkin 23:30, 30 December 2008 (UTC)