Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Entertainment/2008 February 26

= February 26 =

Death growl
What is the appeal of the death growl, as anything more than an occasional brief accent? Why would anyone want a song that couldn't be sung along to (at least not safely or without special training) and that they'd have to hear ten times before they could tell whether the lyrics were any good? Neon Merlin  03:28, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
 * That's art. For one thing, listeners don't always wish to sing along and musicians don't always wish to have them sing along. Immediate comprehensibility is not always the most important aspect. Distorting lyrics to the point of unrecognizability is not unique to subgenres of heavy metal. Even when the garbling isn't intentional, we still get mondegreens.
 * The death growl is a powerful sound, evoking associations and feelings that could be described as animalic, primeval, archaic, brutal, aggressive, direct, ... the list goes on. There are audiences seeking this kind of effect in music or self-identifying with this sound. I don't think it's appealing to a majority, but that's nothing unusual in the tribalized diversity the music business has to offer nowadays. ---Sluzzelin talk  07:34, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
 * My argument has always been this- listen to Cannibal Corpse, and tell me, would any other vocal style work? I have a hard time believing that a trained singer would sound right against that aggressive sound. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.155.80.115 (talk) 14:20, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
 * (Selecting "I Will Kill You" for a random example of a CC song:) I bet James Hetfield could do it. And then most people would be able to tell that it was "killed by my rage" and not "kill my migraine." Neon  Merlin  17:57, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Episode of the Simpsons
I've tried looking through some articles, but i cannot find it. Can anyone give me a link to the episode where Marge teaches (?) painting at a prison and then invites a convict to live with the Simpsons because he paints so well? Evaunit ♥666♥ 04:04, 26 February 2008 (UTC)


 * That was Pokey Mom - the convict was played by Michael Keaton. Adam Bishop (talk) 04:44, 26 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks!Much appreciated. Evaunit ♥666♥ 01:58, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Die Hard 2 - track playing on gramophone
Just seen Die Hard 2 for the first time and heard a song playing on the janitor's record player (when Willis first meets him) that has sections that sound a lot like bits of Groove Armada's "At the River". I'm curious to know what this song is! Cheers.

Rawling 4851 23:23, 26 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I haven't seen that movie in years, but At The River samples rather extensively from the Patti Page song Old Cape Cod. -- LarryMac  | Talk  14:28, 27 February 2008 (UTC)


 * That's the one. Never realised those bits of At The River were sampled... cheers :-) Rawling 4851 18:24, 27 February 2008 (UTC)