Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Entertainment/2008 November 19

= November 19 =

Bass Tuning
For some reason, any tabs i find do not tell me the tuning of Jason Newsted's bass in the song My Friend Of Misery. Also, there is no Wiki page on it, so i was wondering if anyone knew what it was. 71.223.209.11 (talk) 01:26, 19 November 2008 (UTC)


 * If you can find a guitar tab, the tuning will probably be the same. Adam Bishop (talk) 03:42, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

he is tuned to e —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.3.145.61 (talk) 21:23, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Video of Elvis' first performance on Ed Sullivan?
This article states that 82.6% of the television audience watched Elvis' first performance on The Ed Sullivan show on September 9, 1956, where he did Don't Be Cruel and Love Me Tender as his first set. This article states that this performance is still the highest rated network telecast in the country's history, by a large margin. However, I cannot find a video of it anywhere on the internet. It's been recorded, I'm certain of that, because I can find DVDs for sale which have the recording of the performance. I am able to find videos of his second appearance, on October 28 of that year, where he infamously played Hound Dog. However, no videos of the legendary first performance. I'm just curious as to why this telecast, one of the most viewed in television history and the only one in this country's history to have viewership in the 80% range, can't be found on the internet. I would be delighted if someone could prove me wrong, thanks. NIRVANA2764 (talk) 01:31, 19 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I can make an educated guess: It may still be under copyright, so isn't allowed to be copied. Being such a famous vid may mean the owner is more likely to enforce the copyright and issue take-down notices to violators, in order to preserve the value of this property. StuRat (talk) 15:31, 19 November 2008 (UTC)


 * The copyright is probably still owned and protected by CBS, the network on which the performances originally appeared. Thomprod (talk) 19:31, 19 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Maybe, but over that many years the rights may have been sold and resold many times. StuRat (talk) 02:54, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Chicagi
People sometimes refer to "Chicagi" when talking about the city of Chicago. Is there any real reasoning behind? Or did this start from a simple misprint? 79.198.47.249 (talk) 02:22, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I grew up there and never heard anyone refer to Chicago as Chicagi. Where have you seen this?  Dismas |(talk) 03:09, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Heard it in the music scene, bars and restaurants. Also in reference to "Chicagi Girls" but never any hints as to the classical meaning. 79.198.47.249 (talk) 04:07, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I've heard it occasionally and it gets some hits as "Chicagee" "She said go to New York City, Tallahassee, Chicagee", "NYC, Chicagee, and beyond..., "...it's a beautiful day in Chicagee!" I'd always assumed it was mocking the local accent. (Got that mixed up with Virginny.) Or it could be something like what happens to Virginia (Carry Me Back to Old Virginny). Clarityfiend (talk) 04:16, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Sounds reasonable. Probably similar in usage to "Cakalaka" or "Cakalakie" as slang for The Carolinas.  --Jayron32. talk . contribs  12:58, 19 November 2008 (UTC)


 * And Missour-uh for Missouri. -- k a i n a w &trade; 14:53, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Could also have something to do with the nickname Chi-Town. Never sure how that first syllabub would be pronounced though. --Richardrj talkemail 14:56, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
 * That's easy... It rhymes with "my" and "fly" and "buy"... --Jayron32. talk . contribs 17:08, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Carmageddon 1 Question (Picture)
Sorry this is the final Post, How do you post the picture? The question was: What car does the car on the picture resemble? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tailsfan213 (talk • contribs) 11:39, 19 November 2008 (UTC)


 * See Uploading images. -- k a i n a w &trade; 13:42, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Can you help me with my image, There is some copyright problem that I don't what to do with. Tailsfan213 (talk) 15:22, 19 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Looks like a poorly rendered Mercury Sable to me. See this. --  k a i n a w &trade; 16:37, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Unspecified source for Image:HPIM3687.jpg
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Barbara Mandrell's 8 Track Tape "Live"
During the process of reviewing this tape I noticed that on track 3, the medley, included a song title "Old Joe Clark". I did not find this song on the tape. Was this a labeling error?talk) 15:17, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Why is this article funny
I assume this The Onion article is about an actual, song, because then it would be funny. Now, I don't get the joke here. Does this refer to a particular song? Thanks wikipedians - article is here --Otherorsumthin (talk) 15:36, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Seems to me to be referring obliquely to the lyrics of the 1974 track "Cats in the Cradle" by Harry Chapin, covered by Ugly Kid Joe and others. Nanonic (talk) 16:06, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Cat's in the Cradle, I do believe. 16:11, 19 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah, and the Onion article even mentions Chapin by name. The article isn't really funny; it's just one mild, obvious joke (if only there had been a song about this) repeated over and over. Perhaps that's meant to be a comment on the nature of the song, I dunno. —Kevin Myers 16:23, 19 November 2008 (UTC)


 * "obliquely" in the sense that it quotes or paraphrases several passages .. —Tamfang (talk) 03:51, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

I thought it was Father and Son by Cat Stevens that was being refered to. I don't know the actual song it meant. 82.45.164.86 (talk) 00:56, 20 November 2008 (UTC) Well,I lolledhotclaws 20:02, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

It's impossible to decide objectively whether any joke, sentence or utterance is "funny", and if so, why. And it's completely hopeless to debate whether a joke is funny or not. What tickles my fancy may not tickle yours. And what makes me laugh today when I'm in a good mood may not do so tomorrow when I'm depressed, angry, sad and bitter. All we can do is say "That made me laugh" or "That did not make me laugh". -- JackofOz (talk) 21:31, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Animation styles in hollywood
Why are the majority of big studio animation projects these days CGI rather than traditional cel animation? And why is traditional animation so prevalent on television? Thanks 86.7.238.145 (talk) 19:04, 19 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Cel animation is expensive. The main studio that did it was Disney.  They went CGI.  The only big cel animation studio that I know of that still does it is Studio Ghibli.  A huge problem with cel animations is that you can't show nearly finished product to a focus group, take notes, and then make drastic changes easily.  With CGI, it is possible to "add a little more bounce there" or "move that robot a couple feet over" with relative ease.  As for television animation, all of the ones I watch mention at the end credits that the cel animation is done in Korea.  It must be cheaper than CGI to use cel animation on a 30-minute show (20 minutes after commercials - 15 minutes after opening/closing credits are repeated each episode). --  k a i n a w &trade; 19:28, 19 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Actually, most modern TV animation shows use CGI instead of cell animation as well. CGI can be used to replicate the appearance of cell animation, but given the rapid ability to "turn around" episodes, the relative ease of creating and editing episodes, the old "cell animation" methods have gone the way of film cameras as a technology; you will probably always find a few weird pockets still using old techiniques (for example, I think Robot Chicken still uses old-fashioned stop motion animation, but considering they only have about 240 minutes of material to produce per year, its still a workable technique, economically).  Even shows that look "handmade" like South Park are done with CGI.  The quick turnaround of CGI is what enables the show to, for example, feature a show containing the actual text of Barack Obama's acceptance speech less than 24 hours after it aired.  --Jayron32. talk . contribs  20:21, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Lost Music Video
A couple of months ago, there was a music video made for each major character of Lost. What was the song used in John Locke's music video? Thanks in advance.

Americanfreedom (talk) 20:49, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I've got the world's cheapest speakers, but as far as I can tell from youtube, it's Patsy Cline's version of "Crazy". Clarityfiend (talk) 06:04, 20 November 2008 (UTC)