Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Entertainment/2008 November 5

= November 5 =

Music Videos in Disney Channel
Has there ever been a music video in Disney Channel featuring Jesse MacCartney, the Veronicas, the Click Five, B5, or Metro Station?

Has there ever been a music video in Disney Channel featuring a song from the personal albums of these people, Everlife, Billy Ray Cyrus or Metro Station? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.242.166.196 (talk) 04:58, 5 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes. Do a video search on your favorite video search engine for "disney channel version".  Usually, they trim the song down to make it much shorter and edit out anything they find objectionable. --  k a i n a w &trade; 05:15, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Current Bangladeshi Dramas on tv
Where can I find a list of current Bangladeshi Dramas(Natok) on Channel I, NTV, Bangla Vision, Ekushey TV, RTV and ATN Bangla?.

Arab ladies booty dance
Where can I find Arab ladies booty dance videos? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.204.74.225 (talk) 13:25, 5 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Use Google's video search and avoid slang such as "Arab ladies" and "booty dance". Instead, try something like "belly dancing," you fucking dumbass. --  k a i n a w &trade; 13:45, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
 * YouTube has stuff under belly dancing or raqs sharqi. Julia Rossi (talk) 06:06, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

The stereotypical film director (monocle, jodhpurs, riding crop, etc.)
Does anyone know if there's a definitive source for the image of "the film director", with monocle, jodhpurs, riding crop? I believe they're also depicted carrying a megaphone and wearing a beret sometimes. I've heard names like Otto Preminger, Fritz Lang, and Erich von Stroheim, but none of their Wikipedia articles mention their manner of dress more than in passing. There has to be some place that this stereotype got its start, but I can't find it. Maybe it's a creation of a cartoonist/caricaturist, but I'm not even sure how to start researching down that path.

Thank you.
 * Personally I am not acquainted with that stereotype. Could you say where you have seen it? --Richardrj talkemail 18:47, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm thinking Erich von Stroheim but i'll have to pursue it more thoroughly to make sure.Gzuckier (talk) 20:42, 5 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I've always heard the sterotype as being based on Von Stroheim as well... --Jayron32. talk . contribs 21:46, 5 November 2008 (UTC)


 * If you load up the IMDB entry for Erich von Stroheim, and click the "view all photos" option, you can see at least one pic of him in the exact garb described above... --Jayron32. talk . contribs 21:51, 5 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks very much -- I never think of IMDB as a source of photos. CSWarren (talk) 00:31, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
 * For me the stereotype includes a reversed cap, neckerchief or cravat, dark glasses, megaphone and camp chair with Director stencilled across the back. (Or is this in cartoons?) Julia Rossi (talk) 06:03, 6 November 2008 (UTC)


 * It began with Cecil B. DeMille. He wore such an outfit when directing silent films because it created an image of authority when he walked on a set. Pepso2 (talk) 08:40, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm still missing something here, obviously. OK, so this appearance may be associated with one or two particular directors, but where is the stereotype?  Where are the representations in popular media of a generic film director looking like this?  I have never seen any. --Richardrj talkemail 08:56, 6 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Maybe you're too young to remember. You'll certainly find him in old comics and old cartoons. Bugs Bunny springs to my mind for some reason.--Shantavira|feed me 09:03, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks Shant, you made my day :-) --Richardrj talkemail 09:12, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Also The Avengers tv-show, episode "EPIC". 195.35.160.133 (talk) 16:36, 7 November 2008 (UTC) Martin.
 * I'm looking at google images on these people (including the Marx brothers in Duck Soup, and contemp with Bugs) and wonder, why the riding outfit and boots? Was there a figure of authority they picked up on with these things or is there a dominator flavour to it? Julia Rossi (talk) 11:17, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Don't forget the riding crop. Any images of that? --Richardrj talkemail 11:19, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Nein! Vee haf no reddingrop! Julia Rossi (talk) 11:24, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I spoke too soon, here is possibly the definitive article: “What I Really Want to do is Direct”: (1) Directors as Depicted on Film and Television and yes, there is an Austrian connection and there is a riding crop. Julia Rossi (talk) 11:28, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Fred "Bonehead" Clark played a con man in Abbott and Costello Meet the Keystone Cops (1955). He assumed the identity of a Russian film director named Sergei Tourmanoff, and in an effort to appear authentic he wore the gear we're talking about.  A very funny movie.  He just had one of those faces you couldn't help laughing at, even in serious roles like Sunset Boulevard.  --  JackofOz (talk) 13:25, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
 * found this: "Preminger had the reputation of being the latest in a line of Germanic directors who wore jodhpurs and a monocle, and weilded a horsewjhip". Seems to be von Stroheim, Fritz Lang, and Preminger. (although it's not a horsewhip, it's a riding crop). Gzuckier (talk) 18:09, 6 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Original question: "There has to be some place that this stereotype got its start, but I can't find it." "Directors as Depicted" article (link above): "However, she is directed onscreen, in the film’s final horrific close-up, by her butler-chauffeur Max, played by the great silent director Erich von Stroheim. This moment piles irony upon irony since von Stroheim was once celebrated on the Paramount lot as a director of spectacles, and it was he who had introduced the riding breeches of his native Austrian cavalry, adopted by DeMille as part of his signature attire." Footnote in the "Directors as Depicted" article: "Like Josef von Sternberg’s signature turban, von Stroheim’s jodhpurs and riding crop were also an affectation, since he never actually served in the Austrian cavalry." Pepso2 (talk) 18:26, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
 * yet another irony: the "director of spectacles" wearing a monocle. Gzuckier (talk) 19:24, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Reminds me of the old joke: Did you hear about the optometrist's daughter? She fell into a lens-grinding machine and made a spectacle of herself.  Ka-boom.  --  JackofOz (talk) 22:50, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Von Sternberg had a turban!? Julia Rossi (talk) 05:30, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I did a google image search; the only head gear I can find Von Sternberg in is a beat-up looking fedora. Not sure about the turban deal; but it would be no weirder an affectation than Von Stroheim's riding crop or DeMille's beret... --Jayron32. talk . contribs  18:15, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Take a look at this photo of Cecil B. DeMille: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51JwQ-FywTL._SS500_.jpg  DeMille was the most famous director in early Hollywood, and since most people never saw a director, obviously this photo of him made a lasting impression on the public. Caricaturists then exaggerated the look a bit.

The Man With the Golden Gun
I own in VHS the James Bond film The Man With the Golden Gun, and I've noticed that when the two circles that start the gun barrel appear, they are purple instead of white, and they don't become white until the barrel itself and Roger appear. Is this problem present in all the VHS and DVD releases of this film? David Pro (talk) 21:44, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
 * This youtube video shows the circles as white to begin with, and there is no mention of purple circles in James Bond gun barrel sequence. In the Dr. No gun barrel sequence there are lots of rapidly changing colored dots. I think it might be a problem with your VHS, or if your Tv has been near a magnet it would cause the wrong colors to appear, see Cathode ray tube. SN0WKITT3N (talk) 13:09, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I've just checked on my DVD copy (actually a XviD ripped from DVD) and yes, the circles are a very light purple, see here. I've no idea why, maybe because before Roger Moore the sequence is rendered in black and white and they wanted to highlight that this sequence is in color? Since both yours and mine have it, and the youtube vid probably lost it's color during encoding and compression, its a safe bet that all the VHS and DVDs are like that. SN0WKITT3N  20:58, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

What song is Michael Medved using for his bumper music?
It's an instrumental song, popular on alternative radio stations circa 1995-1997. It features basically a drum machine and a synthesizer as it's main/only instruments. I've been trying to figure out what song it is for years and just this week I start hearing it on the Michael Medved radio show. Does anyone know the name of this song or the artist?67.184.14.87 (talk) 22:11, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Can someone please break down this whole Madonna divorce-custody thing?
The entertainment reporters keeps talking how there is a strong possibility Guy Ritchie can get primary custody of the kids. What I don't get is:

1. One of those kids (Lourdes) is not his child in the biological or legal sense, as he never formally adopted her, and she has a relationship with her biological father Carlos Leon, so how can she possibly be up for custody disputes?

2. David Banda doesn't carry Ritchie's last name, and all I heard was that Madonna adopted him, not Madonna and Guy. Did he ever legally adopt him as well, and if not, then why is he also up for custody disputes?

3. Normally, custody laws tend to be on the mother's side unless she is proven to be an unfit mother, which I don't believe Madonna is (I mean look how long it took for the courts to award custody of Britney Spears' children to K-Fed). Why can't they share joint custody of the kids, and is there a chance a judge will make that rational choice?

4. The British Press (and some American Press as well) is biased towards Guy Ritchie, so will that affect a judge's neutrality in the case? --Crackthewhip775 (talk) 22:49, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
 * 1&2. Where is your source for "entertainment reporters" saying Ritchie might get custody of those two?  Even if it is being reported, I wouldn't set too much store by it.  Most tabloid journalists are not overly concerned with accuracy and fairness of reporting.
 * 3. Maybe they will, maybe they won't. We'll have to wait and see.  And we're not really privy to what's gone on behind closed doors at the Ciccone household, so none of us can possibly say what would be a rational choice by the judge.
 * 4. No, it won't. --Richardrj talkemail 09:09, 6 November 2008 (UTC)


 * In America, courts have upheld the notion that it largely depends on who the children consider their father to be, rather than any "legal" or even "genetic" proofs of fatherhood. American courts generally uphold child support payments in cases where it is proven that the man making the payments is not the genetic father of the children, if it can be shown that before said tests both the father and the child believed or behaved as though thay man WAS the real father.  No idea on what the UK legal tradition is in these cases.--Jayron32. talk . contribs  18:47, 6 November 2008 (UTC)