Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Entertainment/2009 April 7

= April 7 =

Angie Dickinson Hollywood Walk of Fame
I'm trying to date a video I have and there's a reference to Angie Dickinson receiving her star. I know it was in 1987, but I can't seem to find any source on the internet that lists a more specific date. Any ideas? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.246.133.41 (talk) 00:45, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Found it myself with a Google News Search: Sep 11, 1987 :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.246.133.41 (talk) 01:29, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Where is Joe Trohman's Wikipedia page?
Where is Joe Trohman's Wikipedia page? It does not appear to be available in English? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rtrohman (talk • contribs) 01:03, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Currently Joe Trohman redirects to Fall Out Boy with the given reason being that of "he's only notable for being in the band, he hasn't done anything notable outside of it" (paraphrasing). Whether that's a valid statement or not I personally do not know. Nanonic (talk) 01:36, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
 * You can find the last full version of the page at before it was turned into a redirect. Exxolon (talk) 19:58, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

I started a new stub on Trohman, because I think he pretty easily meets Wikipedia's notability criteria. People are free to expand with sourced content. Zagalejo^^^ 20:29, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Fantasy football (American) - "committee situation"
In discussions of fantasy football, the term "committee situation" is frequently mentioned. For instance, on the NFL official fantasy blog, there is this: "The Chargers need offensive line and defensive help more than a running back of the future, but it might be hard to pass on someone like Moreno if he falls to them in the first round (No. 16 overall). If that scenario comes to fruition, L.T. could land in a committee with Moreno and Darren Sproles." I am an American football neophyte, so my question is this: are the terms 'comittee' or 'committee situation' used generally in discussion of the game, or are they part of the special jargon of fantasy football? L ANTZY T ALK 06:08, 7 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Its part of the game. In general, each team uses a primary player at each position; i.e. there is a single running back expected to carry most of the load for the team.  These are usually called the "starters".  Where a team divides its playing time roughly equally between two or more players at a position, it is said to run the position "by committee".  Thus, if the Chargers run the ball roughly equally with Sproles and Tomlinson and potential draftee Knowshon Moreno, they are said to have a "running back by committee".  If you are a fan of the team, this could be a good thing if all three running backs are studs and could help lighten the load for each other.  For a fantasy football owner, however, you would want to avoid taking players like this for your team, as they each get less plays (and thus less stats) than a player would if he took the vast majority of the carries for that team.  Thus, a middling player who was a clear starter for his team may be a better fantasy pickup than a great player who has to split time with other great players.
 * As an aside, when the situation happens with quarterbacks you will often here the aphorism "If you have two quarterbacks, you have zero quarterbacks", i.e. the QB position is too important to run by committee, and a team needs a single "leader" at QB in order to be effective. --Jayron32. talk . contribs  06:27, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Jayron. That makes things much clearer. I was wondering why that concept came up so often in fantasy discussions, but now it seems logical and obvious. L ANTZY T ALK 07:49, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
 * The term is probably taken from the derogatory term of a "decision made by committee", usually meaning one of the worse decisions available in any given situation. The other usual term is that two running backs "split the duties."  Tempshill (talk) 20:17, 7 April 2009 (UTC)


 * You can also see the term used in baseball, particularly when talking about the closer pitcher. If the team runs "closer by committee", you fantasy team wont get as many points as if you had a relief pitecher who got all of their team's closes.  Who then was a gentleman? (talk) 02:00, 8 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I was going to mention much the same thing as WTWAG. Many fantasy sports competitions are based on raw numbers (rather than ratios or percentages), so one of the key bits of knowledge for fantasy folks is whether the athlete will be playing full time or not. In some cases, a mediocre player that plays every day may be a better pick than a star player that's going to be stuck in some kind of situation where playing time is reduced. "Closer by committee" is becoming more common now (and has more g-hits), but "bullpen by committee" was probably the source of the phrase. Matt Deres (talk) 16:51, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Tommy
In the course of my Wikipedia work in the past week, I came across an article, either here or in an online newspaper that said the person I was investigating played the young Tommy in a production of the rockopera (originally by The Who). My memory deserts me and I'm unable to dig up the browser history of the computer I used since I'm unsure of which computer I used and exactly what day it happened. I suspect the person was either American or British in origin. Does anyone have a near complete list of the kids who played the role in big town, big venue official performances of this musical? - Mgm|(talk) 09:02, 7 April 2009 (UTC)


 * You could try the Internet Broadway Database. —Tamfang (talk) 18:09, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
 * That wouldn't help for a British production. Is there a similar website for West End plays?  Who then was a gentleman? (talk) 02:01, 8 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Either the listing isn't complete, or the person I'm looking for is not American. - Mgm|(talk) 07:43, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Stockhausen use of loops
Music loop claims:
 * While repetition is used in the musics of all cultures the first musicians to use loops were electronic pioneers Pierre Henry, Edgard Varèse and Karlheinz Stockhausen.

When did Stockhausen use loops? In which pieces? &mdash; Tobias Bergemann (talk) 09:44, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Jeez, you wait years for a Stockhausen question to come along – I guess there may be other Stocky fans here on the RD, but I don't know of any – and then you get a toughie like this. Well, the first thing to say is that that quote from the loop article may not actually be correct, especially if it's unsourced.  Secondly, it depends on your definition of a loop.  If you mean a tape loop, then it may be worth looking at early works like Kontakte and Gesang der Junglinge, although my instinct tells me that mucking about with bits of reel-to-reel tape probably wasn't his style, even way back then.  If your definition can be broadened to include a repetitive electronic structure, then mid-60s works like Telemusik and Hymnen may be what you're looking for.  Stockhausen wrote pieces solely for orchestra, but he also wrote purely electronic pieces and pieces for both electronics and orchestra.  And he even wrote pieces – Hymnen is one – which exist in both electronic and orchestral versions.  Not very helpful I guess, but it's the best I can do. --Richardrj talkemail 15:35, 7 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your answer. I know that Kontakte and Gesang der Jünglinge where partly created by glueing together tape fragments of pre-recorded sounds. It's just that the use of plain, non-transformed tape loops as seems to be implied by music loop does feel completely unlike Stockhausen to me, but I don't know his more procedural works. I am probably reading to much into the article. &mdash; Tobias Bergemann (talk) 17:07, 7 April 2009 (UTC)


 * (Well, there are other people here who appreciate "Stocky", though I guess I wouldn't call myself a die hard fan :-) Stockhausen glued tape into short loops (ca. 20 cm or a quarter of a second) and used these loops as ingredients of his complex synthesis of sounds in Studie II (1954). See, for example, Thom Holmes, Electronic and Experimental Music: Technology, Music, and Culture, p 64, Routledge, ISBN 0415957826 (in English) or also Studie II (in German). ---Sluzzelin talk  09:14, 8 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Sluzzelin and Richardrj, my respect for you both has taken a definite nosedive. I'm completely at one with Sir Thomas Beecham, who, when asked if he had ever played Stockhausen's music, replied "No, but I have stepped in some".  :)  :)  --  JackofOz (talk) 10:41, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh Jack, Jack.... Stockhausen was a complete genius. Sure, he knew it and made sure everyone else did as well, but I find his work utterly involving and, often, strangely beautiful. Chacun à son gout I guess... --Richardrj talkemail 11:11, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Ha ha. Both Jack and Sir Thomas, though of undeniable wit, are a couple of moldy figs (:P, or whatever the corresponding term is in the world of classical music). I viewed more Beecham gems at Wikiquote: I suspect not even Jack agrees with his characterizations of Beethoven's Late String Quartets or Ralph Vaughan Williams. ---Sluzzelin talk  12:23, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Agree? Certainly not.  But I love his wit.  I actually supplied a good chunk of those quotes to Beecham's article before they were snootily deemed unsourced.  I have his quote on Beethoven's late SQs on my List of Favourite Insults.  -- JackofOz (talk) 12:49, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Name of a comedy-romantic-teen movie
I would like to know the name of a movie about a guy that falls in love with his girl-netx-door(or the neighborg of his grandfather). This guy is always waiting for her outside her house, laying down in the grass (I'm not sure about that, but I think that he is almost living in her lawn waiting for her to get out or fall in love with him, like in some kind of strike). His grandfather is always giving him advice, one of them is something like this: "Everything that a man does, going to work, watching tv, sports, eating, etc., it's just an excuse for having something to do between having sex and waiting for the next time to have it again. Having sex is the only purpose of mankind, the other tings are just distractions". I'm not sure but I thing there's a narrative along this movie that the guy does, then there is this scene in wich the girl is near a pool and the guy describes how perfect is her body. The guy also has a best friend that is a perv (his gradfather is also a perv) and this friend buys a penis enlarger or something to masturbate, I don't remember well, but when he uses it it starts burning and he electrocutes. This friend has the theory that men have an especific number of erections trough his life, no more, no less and that he has to spend them properly. I think the grandfather dies in the movie. Well, those are the only details I can remember, I saw this movie a long time ago and it was pretty funny, it is similar to "100 girls" where the protagonist is in love and has a crazy perverted friend.

207.248.235.34 (talk) 17:12, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Eight Days a Week (1997) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119054/

IMDb Video: Eight Days A Week http://www.imdb.com/video/screenplay/vi3966107673/

Eight Days a Week (1997) - Plot summary http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119054/plotsummary Peter loves his next door neighbour Erica and, on the advice of his grandfather, decides to camp out on her front lawn for the entire summer, or until she agrees to go out with him. His father is none too happy about the idea and refuses to let his son back in the house, even to get a change of clothes. Peter's friend, Matt, thinks Peter should give up on women (like he has) and just have sex with fruit, and have a total devotion to masterbation. Written by Jimbo {mcgyver@cybergal.com}, BobbyJ {gilbynziggy@yahoo.com}

V838monocerotis (talk) 12:57, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Song by edIT
What is the title of this song? http://vimeo.com/2090593 I have a feeling that it is the middle portion of the song. Because itunes and various sites provide small clips, it's hard to judge where it comes in the song, and what song it's from. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.130.237.183 (talk) 22:40, 7 April 2009 (UTC)