Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Entertainment/2009 August 11

= August 11 =

baseball no hitters
has a baseball pitcher ever thrown a no hitter and lost the game? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.132.28.33 (talk) 02:48, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
 * There have been several. See the No-hitter article. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 02:51, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Specifically, see No-hitter. --Anon, 04:07 UTC, August 11, 2009.

2 belly buttons or navels science fiction film
What is the film where a man from the present somehow went to the future where the people had 2 navels or belly buttons. I also think the people in power had some sort of pain sticks they used on the poor people. I think the title had a number in it like Psi 3000 or something like that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.202.43.53 (talk) 03:15, 11 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Genesis II? Adam Bishop (talk) 04:19, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

The Meanies band members real names
In regards to the Australian Punk band The Meanies, can anyone find a cite to confirm the members real names (not their alias')? I have no evidence, but I have reason to believe the drummers real name is not Ross Hobbs. If a cite can be found for either outcome, that would be fantastic. I cannot accept any citation from the following article however - It mistakenly attributes wrong names and alias to different members (e.g. Wally is not the lead singer, Link is): http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/article/2008/08/04/16823_news.html Jwoodger (talk) 12:09, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

... Ole oak tree
Who sung a version of Tie a Yellow Ribbon Round the Ole Oak Tree in this video? http://www.megaupload.com/?d=S54064KX -- JSH-alive talk • cont • mail 15:02, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Please do not spam Wikipedia with entries to advertisement sites.Britmax (talk) 23:05, 11 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I downloaded the clip. Unlikely to be spam in fairness, as it's a Japanese (?) ad for washing up liquid with Tie a Yellow Ribbon as the background song. In many ads, session musicians are used, as they are cheaper. I think this may be the case here. Fribbler (talk) 23:21, 11 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Korean ad. And the music is from studio album I guess. -- JSH-alive talk • cont • mail 01:35, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Korean? Oops!. Fribbler (talk) 08:07, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Discussion continues on Talk:Tie a Yellow Ribbon Round the Ole Oak Tree. JSH-alive talk • cont • mail 14:39, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Mother of Frank Gifford
Is the mother of Sports Icon and occasional actor Frank Gifford still alive? Her name is Lola Mae Gifford. Thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.21.168.114 (talk) 15:48, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Have you tried looking on Google? Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 17:50, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
 * According to this page, she died on 26-Nov-1986. --Zerozal (talk) 17:54, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

why isn't it a cup?
If the FIFA World Cup Trophy is supposedly the trophy for the "World Cup", then why isn't it a cup? WhiteDragon (talk) 16:39, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Maybe for the same reason the Bayeux Tapestry isn't a tapestry? The original (since stolen) trophy appears to have been a cup. Maybe the term "World Cup" now refers more to the event than to the trophy? Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 17:49, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Also just to note - obvious though it is to any football fans - the World Cup follows a Knockout format e.g. FA Cup) where eventually teams are knocked out and 2 teams face each other in the final much like every cup-competition i've come across in Football. I suspect like Baseball bugs notes the tradition of it being literally a 'cup' (based) trophy is the reason, but the term cup is used colloquially to refer to any knockout-competition, regardless of what trophy is won (at least in my experience). ny156uk (talk) 21:20, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
 * But non-knockout competitions are also called Cups: Winston Cup. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.41.110.200 (talk) 02:18, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
 * And, I might point out, the Winston Cup has (or at least had) an actual cup-shaped trophy. WhiteDragon (talk) 19:31, 13 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Likewise, in American football we have Bowl Games like the Super Bowl, even though few of these award bowls anymore. Supposedly, the earliest games did award bowl-shaped trophies, but the name has been divorced from the origen; now the idea of a "Bowl Game" just means "really important end-of-the season championship-type game".  -- Jayron  32  04:18, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
 * The "bowl" referred to the stadium, which was typically bowl-shaped. Rose Bowl, Yale Bowl, Cotton Bowl, Orange Bowl, that kind of thing... and the derisively named Baker Bowl. Although it's also true that some stadiums aren't that similar to bowls in their design. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 04:52, 12 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I initially felt that this was backwards, but it is actually almost entirely correct. The Yale Bowl was bowl shaped.  Other stadiums adopted the bowl shape design because they thought the Yale Bowl was cool.  This created a popularity of the word "bowl" for the "really cool game".  Hence, with or without a bowl-shaped stadium, the "really cool game" was known as a bowl. --  k a i n a w &trade; 16:58, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
 * The Rose Bowl, Hampshire is an example of a "bowl"-named stadium unrelated to both Bowl Games and bowl-shaped trophies. Algebraist 17:01, 12 August 2009 (UTC)


 * According to our article: "It is a recently built venue set into an amphitheatre creating a bowl, hence the name." -- k a i n a w &trade; 17:09, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Another obvious example that has nothing to do with sports is the Hollywood Bowl. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 18:36, 12 August 2009 (UTC)