Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Entertainment/2009 January 30

= January 30 =

Abbreviation for "in development" or "in the making"
I need an abbreviation for "in development", "in the making" or another phrase with a similar meaning. Does anyone know of any? It's for a list of media whose release dates are known to be in the future. Thanks! SharkD (talk) 02:27, 30 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I tend to use WIP for "work in progress". --Cookatoo.ergo.ZooM (talk) 04:18, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Duh, thanks! SharkD (talk) 05:42, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Animated movies
What animated movies(more geared towards adults) are to be realeased in the near future that incorporate the newer(or at least newly made popular) styles of animation seen in some recent movies e.g. 'Waltz with Bashir'? Thankyou 80.35.203.22 (talk) 15:00, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Richard Linklater's Waking Life (2001) is an animated documentary, but Linklater's A Scanner Darkly (2006) is much better. Chris Landreth's Ryan (2004) uses "psychorealism" to tell how talented animator Ryan Larkin became a street panhandler. Also see Bob Sabiston's Grasshopper (2004) and anything by the Brothers Quay. Persepolis (2007) is based on the Marjane Satrapi graphic novel: http://www.sonyclassics.com/persepolis/ Mary and Max (2009): http://www.maryandmax.com/ Pepso2 (talk) 22:35, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Ska tune in DFS advert
There's a DFS advert on British telly at the moment with a ska tune playing in the background - can anyone tell me what it's called? DuncanHill (talk) 20:10, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Lyrics or context would help. Is it third-wave ska?  Two-tone ska?  Etc. etc.  --Jayron32. talk . contribs  20:12, 30 January 2009 (UTC)


 * If it's this one then the name is given as "Train to Skaville" by The Ethiopians. Ka renjc 20:25, 30 January 2009 (UTC)


 * That's the one! I knew I'd remember the name as soon as someone told me! Thanks :) DuncanHill (talk) 20:54, 30 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Welcome :) Ka renjc 12:25, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Documentary on chocolate
I'm having trouble verifying a fact in an article. Several unreliable and undated sources state that the BBC is working on a documentary about the chocolate industry and I've even seen an expert personally claim it in a recent video (2007-2008). Unfortunately, I can't find any sign of the thing. Can anyone verify one was broadcast or one is in the works? - Mgm|(talk) 22:11, 30 January 2009 (UTC)


 * There seems to have been an episode of "Survivor's Guide" on BBC World about child labour in the Cameroon cocoa plantations. It's on youtube. DuncanHill (talk) 22:16, 30 January 2009 (UTC)


 * OK, it's "Survivor's Guide to Growing Up" more info at . DuncanHill (talk) 22:21, 30 January 2009 (UTC)


 * At first glance, I'm not getting the confirmation this is what I'm looking for. In particular, I'm looking for one where the BBC had to shoot footage in Louis Barnett's chocolate factory. - Mgm|(talk) 00:17, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Would you help me identify this music?
If you click here and then on the "Defense Leaders" slideshow, it plays a song that sounds similar to Aaron Copland's Fanfare for the Common Man.

Can you identify the music playing behind the "Defense Leaders" slideshow? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 214.16.41.245 (talk) 22:17, 30 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Copland later incorporated the Fanfare for the Common Man into the final movement of his Third Symphony. This piece might be that entire movement (I didn't listen to it long enough to hear if the Fanfare is played).  Or it might be an entirely different piece, but clearly inspired by Copland.  If that's the case, I have no idea who wrote it or what it's called.  Best I can do at the mo.  --  JackofOz (talk) 04:33, 31 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I've listened to the entire thing. It's definitely not Fanfare for the Common Man.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.114.207.110 (talk) 18:48, 31 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I had a definite feeling of déjà lu when I listened to it - it is very Coplandish, and it sounds like it is striving towards the FFTCM - but it never quite gets there! DuncanHill (talk) 15:21, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Surely déjà entendu? --Richardrj talkemail 15:49, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
 * errr, well..... French is a bloody silly language anyway! DuncanHill (talk) 15:57, 2 February 2009 (UTC)


 * It's not Copland, but the composer is "borrowing" from him liberally (the same way Hans Zimmer "borrowed" from Wagner and Holst in writing the score to Gladiator; as I recall he took "Mars" from The Planets and changed it from 5/4 to 6/4). Copland would never have used that F-major added sixth harp glissando, nor some of those Gerschwinesque harmonies two-thirds of the way through.  It's a recently composed piece using Copland's sounds and textures -- it's easier than being original, I suppose. Antandrus  (talk) 03:53, 3 February 2009 (UTC)