Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Entertainment/2009 June 17

= June 17 =

Who Is This Singer?
When I was little I heard a song on the radio it is titled "I Never Dreamed Someone Like You Could Love Someone Like Me", a soundtrack from the movie "Carrie"' written by Merrit Malloy and Pino Donaggio, and performed by Katie Irving. I tried to find more about the singer but the information I got is somewhat limited and I can't find even a single photo. I just want to know more about the singer who captured my heart with her music. I will deeply appreciate any information you will give me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jho82 (talk • contribs) 01:21, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, according to our article Amy Irving (whose sister she is), she is, or was, a "singer/teacher of deaf children." Her IMDB bio has a bit more information about her apparently exiguous career. I've also been unable to find a photo of her, though; some folks like to remain more or less out of the spotlight. Deor (talk) 05:12, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * According to her biography at IMDB, her parents are George S. Irving and Maria Karnilova, thus not Amy Irving's sister. --Cam (talk) 05:16, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * The Irving family: Jules, Priscilla, David, Amy and Katie: http://www.nndb.com/people/290/000025215/ Priscilla, Amy and Katie all worked on Carrie: http://www.austinchronicle.com/gyrobase/Issue/print?oid=oid%3A265018 Pepso2 (talk) 10:32, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Yup, that's about the same info I got. But thanks for the time you spent on answering, I appreciate it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jho82 (talk • contribs) 02:33, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Mid 1970's ABC Summer Replacement Show
Watching Wipeout recently has piqued my curiosity about another similar show on ABC during the summer in the mid to late 1970's. I can't remember the name of the show. It too took place outdoors. I believe it involved two teams of people from two different towns competing in wacky events. Does anyone know the name of the show?Chief41074 (talk) 16:15, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Sounds like the US version of It's a Knockout, which was apparently called Almost Anything Goes. The WP page on It's a Knockout says it was a mid-season replacement running in July/August 1975.  Local versions of the show were very popular in the UK and much of Europe in the 70s, but I guess the American version was not so popular. --Maltelauridsbrigge (talk) 17:11, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

That is absolutely correct. Thank you so much for the swift answer.Chief41074 (talk) 18:27, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

An effect of new films about old series
I have noticed an effect that all-new films about existing, but very old series, has had. I first noticed it with Transformers, and now again with Star Trek. Even though people should usually at least have heard of the series when it was first made and was at its heyday, immediately after the new "let's resurrect the old series" film comes out and they go see it, they act as if the entire concept and mythos was only just invented. I was on a bus ride reading a book about Star Trek: Deep Space Nine (written about half a decade before the new film came out), and people who noticed it kept asking me about its relation to the new film, obviously thinking the new film was based on it. It took me several tries to explain that the only thing they have in common is an old 1960s TV series that inspired them both, entirely separately. People seem to even have trouble understanding that unlike the majority of sci-fi films, Star Trek is based on a TV series, not books. Has anyone else noticed this, or is it just my fanboyish imagination? J I P | Talk 17:52, 17 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, unless you already happen to be a fan of Star Trek (or Transformers), there really isn't any reason to know much about the original TV shows. It has been awhile since Star Trek had any impact outside of Star Trek fandom (like, since 1994, I'd say). Likewise, those people probably have some other niche interest that you have no idea about. Adam Bishop (talk) 18:15, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

You are expecting too many viewers to remember a popular-show from quite a while ago and link that back to the new-film they just saw. They may never have seen the show (even if they were aware it existed) when it first came round, they may have watched an episode but forgotten about it. I'm 26 and there are tv shows from my childhood I don't remember, I end up nodding and chuckling politely as my friends reminisce about a show i'm bound to have watch but have no memory of. I know it's not the same but it's a case of remember that just because you remember X doesn't mean other people automatically will. ny156uk (talk) 21:46, 17 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I haven't encountered the exact same thing but have run into similar patterns with music and cars. Every so often a new-ish band will get a bunch of air time for a song that they are simply covering.  Smashmouth's version of "I'm a Believer" comes to mind.  Or the cover of "Big Yellow Taxi" that came out a few years back with Counting Crows covering it.  So few people seem to realize that these aren't new songs and that they're simply covers of older ones.  As the "I'm a Believer" example points out, many of them seem to be included in movie soundtracks (Shrek in the example).  As for the cars example, when Toyota came out with the newly redesigned Toyota FJ Cruiser, I noticed a few people thinking that it was an entirely new vehicle.  Although, it's actually based on the old FJs that Toyota used to produce.  Dismas |(talk) 02:53, 18 June 2009 (UTC)


 * In general, people don't remember. It doesn't matter what it is.  From computing: We used to have a mainframe with a bunch of terminals because that was the 'best' way to do it.  Then, someone decided it was better for each person to have a computer and spread the computing load.  Now, there is an entirely "new" idea of centralizing all applications on a mainframe and having each user run a "thin-client" (ie: terminal).  From economy: In the 70's, there was a period in which gasoline was extraordinarily expensive - well beyond what an average person could afford.  Now, we have expensive gasoline again and it is completely "new" and never happened before.  It is possible to go on and on and on and on with a unique example for every person who has every lived on Earth, but what would we learn that is new?  Nothing.  This entire topic has been rehashed over and over ever since two guys were pointing out that Grboc's interest in that new huge wooly mammoth is stupid since they saw one just like it a few moons earlier. --  k a i n a w &trade; 14:41, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Macarena & Mickey Lane's Shaggy Dog
Can any oldies rock fan help me here? I heard that the famous song Macarena might be a remake of the Spanish version of Mickey Lane's Shaggy Dog. I tried looking and didn't find much. Maybe someone who has access to both can listen to them. I did see this from a mastering engineer who worked at Atlantic for a while: "Have any of you heard the Spanish version(s) of Shaggy Dog? Shaggy Dog was a top ten song nationally in Mexico and Austrailia. Honest. We used to get Cash Box magazine to our house every week, as that was Mickey's place of abode at the time. In the US, while it did make it to number 1 in some cities, and top 10 in many others, it only made it to #38 nationally. It was played 75,000 times (or so it was reported to Mickey) on the air at that time, and sold a quarter of a million records worldwide, with much of the royalties never seen from the foreign releases. And so the nitty-gritty of the music biz.... In Italy, until recently, a show there used Shaggy Dog as their show-tune, and some woman in Mexico has done the same...so the song is somewhat known there. Have any of you heard the Macarena??" Thanks in advance! Mxvxnyxvxn (talk) 20:19, 17 June 2009 (UTC) Here's Mickey Lee Lane's wiki. Mxvxnyxvxn (talk) 20:24, 17 June 2009 (UTC)