Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Entertainment/2009 March 12

= March 12 =

Vatican City National Football team
Is this article legit? The two refs don't provide much information at all, and I can't find anything outside of Wikipedia besides this, which, for all I know, might have been using the Wiki article as a source. Zagalejo^^^ 05:02, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
 * It's not a hoax, the Vatican City has fielded a national time like a few other 'non-states' such as the Basque Country national football team and has been given an ELO Rating. To see some other teams in this vein have a look at the template . The notability of such teams is being questioned all the time and as yet we haven't come up with a hard and fast reason to not have articles on these teams that are not members of FIFA or the Nouvelle Fédération-Board which are collectively listed here (see also the current discussion at WP:FOOTY). Nanonic (talk) 06:30, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm not familiar with that ELO ratings website. Is it generally considered reliable? Are there any sources besides that? Zagalejo^^^ 06:38, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
 * There is also "The Vatican has in fact twice fielded a side to play in yellow and white shirts - against national teams from other mini-states such as Monaco and San Marino."(BBC) and "Indeed the Vatican, though not a UEFA member, do have a useful national team, who have held San Marino and Monaco (the state, not the club) in the past and recently beat Swiss non-league team SV Vollmond 5-1"(UEFA). Nanonic (talk) 06:56, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Those look a little more reliable. Thanks for the links, this is interesting. Zagalejo^^^ 06:59, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

acting part 3
i got an audition in toronto for a movie how should i practice not that it matter's but i'm 16 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Derick chapman (talk • contribs) 06:05, 12 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Regardless of what you are practicing to do, you practice by doing it over and over with great attention to detail. -- k a i n a w &trade; 13:02, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Maybe try and think about a couple of different approaches to the role, if you know what the role is. Have they given you any info about the part you're auditioning for?91.111.86.221 (talk) 13:31, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
 * It strikes me that this is the kind of a fairly basic thing that would be covered in a good drama school. You say that you've gone to a drama school, but if you're only 16, you might want to consider furthering your education there even while you're going to auditions. Or checking out your local library for books on the subject might also be helpful -- I can't recommend any, but I'm sure there are good guides for this kind of thing. -- Captain Disdain (talk) 13:33, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
 * If you have an audition piece then practice it, like you were taught in your drama school. If you recently finished drama school then try calling your teacher and asking for suggestions. What makes you think random people on the internet would know more about this than you or your teacher? DJ Clayworth (talk) 15:52, 12 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Derick, you've been here a while now so it's time someone pointed this out to you. On the Reference Desk it's impolite to ask questions in textspeak. People would appreciate it if you used English, with punctuation and capitalisation. Thanks. DJ Clayworth (talk) 15:56, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Also, have a read of our article Apostrophe. Malcolm XIV (talk) 20:12, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Pretty impressive, to get an audition for a film role less than 24 hours after you were asking for advice on how to become an actor. Malcolm XIV (talk) 20:15, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
 * This page gives some good tips on how to handle auditions and related things. Normally, I'm wary about geocities pages, but in this case I know the owner and can vouch for their expertise. (they're as Canadian as you :) ) -- Mgm|(talk) 11:21, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
 * The first thing to do when going for an audition is demand to see the brief. If your agent can't brief you on the role then it's time to get a new agent. More over, if you can't nother to even tell us what the brief is, you probably shouldn't be posting on the reference desk, and come to think of it, I shouldn't even bother answering. Rfwoolf (talk) 15:29, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

1980s nuclear war related film
There's a nuclear war film, fiction, from what I believe to be the 1980s. I haven't seen it since I was a kid and the only scene I can remember is: some boyscouts go out into the desert or plains for a camping trip/hike and right before the blast, they dig holes or trenches to help protect themselves. That's all I remember, I'm pretty sure it's a North American film, and I know it isn't The Day After or Threads. Any help is appreciated. Thanks, --Anthonysenn (talk) 23:30, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Kids, desert camping, nuclear war... It's not Red Dawn is it? Astronaut (talk) 00:46, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I've seen Red Dawn a few times since then, and I'm pretty sure that isn't it --Anthonysenn (talk) 00:56, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
 * It is not Red Dawn. Lucifer's Hammer is a novel that deals with a comet striking Earth; one of the sub-plots deals with Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts who were camping at the time. In the cabaret show Lounge-zilla! Asian Sings the Blues there is a song called "I'm A Teenage Mutant Boy Scout" where a Scout mutates after camping in a nuclear fallout zone. Then there is the documentary The Nuclear Boy Scout about David Hahn. But none of these are an exact match. --—— Gadget850 (Ed)  talk  -  19:29, 13 March 2009 (UTC)