Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Entertainment/2009 May 19

= May 19 =

Say you're playing Sonic & Knuckles with Sonic 2 (you know, for the Megadrive/Genesis, with Knuckles in Sonic 2...)
Right well say you've gotten 7 emeralds, you can now turn into Super Knuckles (the equivalent of Super Sonic). What I'm wondering is whether or not there is a way to prevent this from happening every time you collect over 50 rings, it totally drains your rings and stops you from collecting more rings, it also stops Knuckles from using his glide power and climbing power without turning into this character, it's crap really. I have it on a ROM and am in Chemical Plant Zone, saved the state, and got the 7 emeralds, but that's gonna be a hindrance for the rest of the damned game.--NavyDrinker (talk) 01:02, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Like you will just get over 50 rings then without wanting to, then you will turn into Super Knuckles because you want to glide or just press A, B, or C even more than once while the character is jumping. They should have made that something selectable by using the start button and choosing it on a menu or something.--NavyDrinker (talk) 01:07, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Also, I have it saved before doing the last special stage in Chemical Plant... I'm aiming to get the highest possible score through saving multiple game states and continuing if I fuck up, so what I could do is collect rings on the special stages and in the levels minus Super Knuckles then get the last starpost in Oil Ocean Zone (or whatever the last point to do special stages is, I'm not that much of a Sonic expert) to get the last Chaos Emerald.--NavyDrinker (talk) 01:10, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I haven't played the game ... but do you know about GameFAQs? Tempshill (talk) 14:40, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it's a good site, but doesn't answer me on this specific issue. No solution to the problem exists I would have guessed. Just poor programming at the time, even if the Sonic games were among the best programmed games on the entire Megadrive/Genesis, being their flagship series and all.--NavyDrinker (talk) 20:52, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Paddling movies
What are some movies that prominently feature kayaking or canoeing?

So far I have come up with Into the Wild and Deliverance, but I am really looking for something that has it more as a focus, in the same way that The Eiger Sanction features rock climbing. -- KathrynLybarger (talk) 14:23, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

The Cockleshell Heroes (1955). Pepso2 (talk) 18:10, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Try the IMDb search page and go down to the 'word search' bit and choose 'keyword' from the drop down menu then type in Kayaking or canoeing or whatever you want.Popcorn II (talk) 08:19, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Deliverance (1972). Clarityfiend (talk) 03:38, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

The beat goes on
Are there any bands who have enjoyed popularity with two completely different line-ups but keeping the same name?

I understand that bands change somewhat over time when members die, go off on their own, or new ones join up. I am looking for bands that have had more than one "era" in which they were popular, but where there is no overlap in the membership of the band during those times.

I am not considering groups that have this feature by design, such as the London Symphony Orchestra or Menudo. -- KathrynLybarger (talk) 14:44, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Black Sabbath have had a very convoluted history in terms of line-ups, but Tony Iommi is the one constant. I know I've seen a prolific rock band round here somewhere that had no original members left, but I can't find it at the moment. Fribbler (talk) 15:38, 19 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I wonder if Lynryd Skynryd are gigging again? (My God we haven't got an article for them!) I have heard that the Sensational Alex Harvey Band are doing the festivals this year, which has made me wonder whether they've dug Alex up! Seriously, though, bands tend not to have one name/more than one line up, as there are complex legal issues involved. The Platters are one such band. Here in the UK, bands such as Wishbone Ash and Barclay James Harvest are gigging but under the name of an original band member + the band name, which suggests that there's been a split in the group and someone has gone off and recruited new members to his old band. See Martin Turner's Wishbone Ash. Our article on Barclay James Harvest tells us "All three "derivatives" of the original Barclay James Harvest lineup continue to record and tour, and enjoy ongoing popularity, particularly in Germany, France, and Switzerland.", and as there are only 3 surviving members, one can only assume they have all recruited their own band members! --TammyMoet (talk) 16:55, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
 * The reason Lynyrd Skynyrd came up as a redlink is because you mis-spelled their name, which is very understandable. --Richardrj talkemail 17:14, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Do you know I checked the spelling 3 times and didn't spot that one! Thanks.--TammyMoet (talk) 18:57, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

I guess there are quite a few bands from the 60s/70s/80s that were popular but have in practice ceased to exist, however if the 'same' band was to do a comeback gig or tour with different members then they would be quite popular, at least in the short term. Also Hawkwind has only had one constant member since 1969. Iron Maiden have had quite a few changes, though not complete, however remain very popular even today amongst metal fans. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Abc26324 (talk • contribs) 19:23, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
 * It appears, after searching, that we used to have an article about this in list form, but it got deleted - []. Seems like useful/interesting info and can be sourced, so I don't know why it was censored like that.--NavyDrinker (talk) 20:46, 19 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Suicidal Tendencies had popularity with the original band and then again much more recently with a more funk-based lineup. -- k a i n a w &trade; 20:47, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah Suicidal Tendencies is good innit.--NavyDrinker (talk) 20:49, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
 * The second band wasn't Suicidal Tendencies, it was Infectious Grooves, which had some crossover in membership with ST, but was always considered a different band. IG was more of a power-funk band, and ST has always been hardcore punk.
 * To answer the OP's question, the best example I can think of is Yes which in the 1980's two versions running simultaneously, leading the original Yes to reform as Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe, while the "official" Yes consisted of original basist Chris Squire and 4 other guys. Also, the Velvet Underground for a while existed solely as Doug Yule plus a bunch of session musicians; he was not an original member himself.  See Squeeze (The Velvet Underground album).  Finally, another close call is The Lemonheads which has basically been an Evan Dando solo-project with whoever he can pick up.  In the original incarnation, Dando was the drummer and the original singer and lead guitarist was Ben Deily.  When the original band broke up, Dando kept the name and has been producing albums as the Lemonheads ever since.--Jayron32. talk . contribs  01:29, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Regarding Yes, a similar situation happened with Asia. Now that I think about it, Steve Howe and Geoff Downes have played in both bands! A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 17:29, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I was referring to the original Suicidal Tendencies as compared to the "How Will I Laugh Tomorrow" Suicidal Tendencies. Both had the same lead singer and band name, but the entire band and musical style changed. --  k a i n a w &trade; 14:32, 20 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Though not popular in the general sense of the term, but having a certain degree of underground following, Napalm Death, by 1992, had a line up completely different from what they started off with. Sourced from their allmusic article (this:). --Leif edling (talk) 04:28, 20 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Renaissance (band) had a complete turnover early on. —Tamfang (talk) 07:06, 20 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Ooh, this is an easy one: The Yardbirds. Matt Deres (talk) 12:41, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Nine Inch Nails hotclaws 14:37, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
 * The deleted article mentioned above had the following bands listed (can't vouch for its correctness): Angelic Upstarts, The Drifters, Fairport Convention, Menudo, Quiet Riot, Renaissance, Shite, Soft Machine, Thin Lizzy, TSOL, The Velvet Underground, Zao. It also had links to now-deleted articles on bands with only one original member and bands with only two original members. Rmhermen (talk) 16:27, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Name of a cartoon
Does anyone remember the name of an old cartoon (on Cartoon network), about hero fighting against evil and the protagonist/heroine is a blond girl? She has two male friends who are also main characters, I think. 117.0.33.112 (talk) 15:04, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Kim Possible? --Richardrj talkemail 15:29, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Not that one. :( If I'm not mistaken the heroine has a look similar to the Japanese anime girl style. I cannot remember the name, or anything more. Help me. 117.0.33.112 (talk) 15:49, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Sailor Moon? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.36.216.233 (talk) 20:36, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Perhaps The Life and Times of Juniper Lee? — Michael J  22:25, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Podcasts
Hi, is the a website where you can download podcasts that have been on in the past and are no longer available from their original source, in particular BBC Radio 4 podcasts, or will it have to be done through a Torrent site?

thanks, --Abc26324 (talk) 18:31, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
 * A cursory search of the iTunes Store shows a ton of BBC 4 podcasts, but I don't know how far back they go. Livewireo (talk) 13:30, 20 May 2009 (UTC)