Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Entertainment/2009 November 30

= November 30 =

Beatles
What is your favorite Beatles movie and why? What is your favorite quote from the movie? 02:27, 30 November 2009 (UTC)Moptopstyle1 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Moptopstyle1 (talk • contribs)


 * I don't think this is the purpose of the Reference desk...now, if you asked "Does The Magic Christian count as a Beatles movie?", we could certainly answer a question like that. Adam Bishop (talk) 02:45, 30 November 2009 (UTC)


 * And that answer would be...? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 02:51, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Oh okay then...Um, according to most Critics, what is the most favored Beatle movie? MWAH HA HA HA!! That's a question. :-) And, I've never seen The Magic Christian, but I have heard of it.

and also, Does George Harrison have a middle name? I've never seen his middle name ANYWHERE! Moptopstyle1 03:48, 30 November 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Moptopstyle1 (talk • contribs)


 * George Harrison, which is footnote #1 in the George Harrison article, says there's no middle name on his birth certificate, but also talks about how some biographers call his middle name "Everett". Tempshill (talk) 03:58, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * "Everett" is actually the name of an author being cited in that note: Everett, Walter (2001). The Beatles as Musicians: The Quarry Men Through Rubber Soul. US: Oxford University Press. ISBN 019514105.

Hm, that's interesting. So maybe he doesn't have a middle name? Someone should ask his son, Dhani. Moptopstyle1 04:13, 30 November 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Moptopstyle1 (talk • contribs)


 * Lennon and McCartney had middle names, Harrison and Starr did not. Speaking of Ringo, he's the one Beatle in The Magic Christian (as Peter Sellers' associate), so that movie could be called a 1/4 Beatles movie. It's safe to say it's not likely to be the critics' favorite Beatles film, regardless of the fraction. A Hard Day's Night was a good one, basically a satire of Beatlemania, and an excuse to do a bunch of song videos long before MTV existed. Help! was likewise a series of videos connected by something resembling a story. My favorite part of that was where George was singing "I Need You", out in Salisbury Plain with the wind howling and Stonehenge looming in the background. For what it's worth, for the ones I can think of, here's how Leonard Maltin rates them on the 4-star scale: A Hard Day's Night (4), Help! (3 1/2), How I Won the War (3 - Lennon only), The Magic Christian (3 - Starr only), Yellow Submarine (4). ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 04:48, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * And don't forget the experimental films that John and Yoko did. Was Candy released during the time the Beatles were together? (only 2 stars, anyway). Several later films contained one or more Beatles (e.g., the horrible Water, which had both George and Ringo in small roles playing themselves). I'd rate the films similarly to Maltin (unlike BB, "You've got to hide your love away" was the highlight for me in Help!), though I'd only give Yellow Submarine 3 1/2. A Hard Day's Night is usually regarded as the best by critics, Beatles fans, and the public alike. Grutness...wha?  23:45, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I think there were documentaries about "Let It Be" and George's "Concert for Bangladesh". "Magical Mystery Tour" was a TV special also, if I recall. That kind of thing might be outside the scope of OP's qustion. He also asked about quotes, and that's kind of a tough one to come up with, but maybe because I haven't seem them in ages. Might be time to break down and get the DVD's. Ringo has actually been in quite a few of them. He's arguably the most diverse performing artist of the group, although they were all reasonably good natural actors. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 00:40, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

And I think Paul was in a movie called "Give My Regards to Broad Street." I haven't seen it, but I have the soundtrack at least. I've only seen "A Hard Day's Night" and "Help!" so far, but I love both of the movies. It funny how "Help!" is set about an Indian Religion, and then a couple years later, Harrison converted to Hinduism I believe. Or was it Hare Krishna? I love the scene in "A Hard Day's Night" where they're singing on the train "I Should Have Known Better." "You Got To Hide Your Love Away" and "You're Going To Lose That Girl" or great songs from "Help!" Thanks for all the help!

Next question (for those who want to answer): What drugs did the Beatles actually do? I know LSD was a very big one for them, but what else? Moptopstyle1 01:24, 1 December 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Moptopstyle1 (talk • contribs)


 * Well, they all have admited to marijuana and John Lennon had, on several occasions, sung about using various drugs. "Doctor Robert" from Revolver was an homage to his speed dealer; pretty risque song material for 1966 (for comparison, the similar themed "I'm Waiting for the Man" by the Velvet Underground, a FAR less popular and pop-y band, wasn't recorded until a year later). He wrote about kicking a heroin habit in Cold Turkey, recorded with the Plastic Ono Band, a Lennon side project during the last years of the Beatles. -- Jayron  32  01:55, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Oh, and for those who do not know, Paul McCartney's middle name is actually..... PAUL.... His first name is James. John Lennon's middle name was Winston, and he when he was kid, he was called "Winnie." He didn't like that. --Moptopstyle1 01:53, 1 December 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Moptopstyle1 (talk • contribs)
 * I think Paul actually had one album titled "James Paul McCartney". In the "making of" feature on the "Help!" DVD, Richard Lester says there was already a lot of pot-smoking going on with the Beatles (and apparently most everyone else) on the set of that film. Lennon, though, eventually went almost far enough to do himself in, as Jayron notes - only to have some lunatic do it for him, just as he was getting himself together again in 1980 (we're coming up on the 29th anniversary of that shocker, a week from today). Moptopstyle1 points out "I Should Have Known Better" from "A Hard Day's Night", where they were ostensibly sitting in the baggage car singing. That segment was so good that they actually rotoscoped it, more or less, for use in the Beatles TV cartoon series. Lester, by the way, says that some have told him that he's the "father" of MTV, i.e. setting the example by those music video set-piece as created in those two films. You can lift those segments out of the films, and you've got MTV-ready videos, 15 years or so before MTV came along. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 12:31, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Wow, I guess the Beatles were the Fathers of all things awesome.. Ha, ha. MUSIC VIDEOS?! BEFORE THEY WERE CREATED?! That's pretty good for four dudes from Liverpool. ha, ha. I agree that Lester was the Father of MTV, but, I'm more of a VH1 person...

Okay then. Next questions: Was John Lennon ever charged for assaulting that Radio Personality guy at Paul's birthday party? What had happened is that, the Radio Personality made a comment on John Lennon's vacation with Brian Epstein and commented "Did you enjoy your honeymoon?" (and Epstein was known for being gay, and the Radio Personality known for his humor) So, did the man drop charges on Lennon? I read Lennon actually broke some of the man's ribs. Yikes. Moptopstyle1 02:03, 2 December 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Moptopstyle1 (talk • contribs)

Oh yeah, I forgot about the anniversary of John Lennon's death. December 8th. Wow, I wonder how his friends and family will do to remember him? I want to see the Strawberry Fields Forever Memorial In New York to pay my respects. He was an incredible musician... Moptopstyle1 02:11, 2 December 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Moptopstyle1 (talk • contribs)

Text of Shostakovich's symphony no. 14
What is the text to Shostakovich's symphhony no. 14 could I have the text please in Cyrillic Russian and Latin alphabet Russian and could I also have a translation? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Boodg (talk • contribs) 03:36, 30 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Found the texts here. Also, we have an article on Shostakovich Symphony No. 14, but the link to the "Texts of the poems..." at the bottom seems to be broken. I may later replace the broken link with the one I gave here. --Dr Dima (talk) 06:50, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Yes, thats the first part but could I also have an translations from Russian to English. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Boodg (talk • contribs) 01:50, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Text of Schubert's lieder Waldesnacht D. 708
Im sorry to ask for another text but I just need allot of translations. Could I have the text of Schubert's (Not Brahms!) Waldesnacht lieder. Could I also have the text of the lieder thank you so much. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Boodg (talk • contribs) 04:08, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

"Best" football league in the world?
Just saw a newspaper quote from a Spanish footballer asserting that La Liga was "the best in the world" and it got me to wondering if there was really any objective way to measure that. Has anyone ever tried to quantify league quality? Is there anything approaching consensus as to which is the top league? (Champions League obviously excluded) I'm sure the RefDesk kneejerk reaction is to ask "what does best mean in this case?" I think, from a fan's perspective, the best league would be the league with the deepest pool of player talent. So, back to the beginning, has anyone ever tried to quantify all of this and proclaim _____ is the best league in the world? 218.25.32.210 (talk) 05:40, 30 November 2009 (UTC)


 * I am pretty sure it is generally agreed that the English Premier League is the best league in the world, as noted in the article I just linked, as it has the most revenues to spend on buying players, and on actual objective criteria of league quality, see UEFA coefficient. Spain has the top ranked national team, but England has the top ranked league.  -- Jayron  32  05:50, 30 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Interesting, I was unaware there was such a thing as the League Coefficient. Thank you for the link! My gut feeling was that the EPL was tops, but I know better than to make claims based solely on feel and without legit sources in my hand! 218.25.32.210 (talk) 05:58, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * There is also a "club coefficient" used to rank individual clubs. Barcelona is the top club in Europe, but the EPL has like 4 of the top 5 spots, so as a league it trumps La Liga in terms of overall ranks of the individual clubs.  -- Jayron  32  06:06, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

The NFL. Obviously. :) ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 22:11, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * In America, that is the only football league. Googlemeister (talk) 15:21, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
 * See United Football League (2009). 99.166.95.142 (talk) 16:32, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Songs named after chemical elements
I wonder if there are many songs - rock or pop - named after chemical elements. I mean there are at least two songs named Lithium: one by Nirvana and one by Evanescence; and at least one song named Iodine (by Sons and Daughters). Are there many (or any) others? --Dr Dima (talk) 06:33, 30 November 2009 (UTC)


 * How about all of them?. There may be many others but they haven't been discovered... -- Jayron  32  06:35, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Or "discarvard"... DJ Clayworth (talk) 18:45, 30 November 2009 (UTC)


 * There's also "I Am Hydrogen", usually the middle song of the suite refered to as "Mike's Groove" by the band Phish (Mike's Song/I Am Hydrogen/Weekapaug Groove). I don't think that it appears on any studio albums, but it does appear on several Live Phish Series albums.  -- Jayron  32  06:39, 30 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Barenaked Ladies have a song entitled "Aluminum" on their Everything to Everyone album. And I wouldn't be surprised if They Might Be Giants had an element song in their catalog.  Dismas |(talk) 06:43, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Indeed, TMBG has, their 2009 children's album Here Comes Science features the tune "Meet the Elements". -- Jayron  32  07:02, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * There are also several songs named "Gold", see Gold (disambiguation), and one named Silver by Echo and the Bunnymen. and one named Platinum by a Japanese group, one named and Neon by John Mayer. Still looking for others. -- Jayron  32  06:44, 30 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Don't know how I forgot about this one being the Floyd fan that I am but Pink Floyd have a song entitled "Quicksilver" (more often referred to as mercury) off of their album, Soundtrack from the Film More which is usually just referred to as More. Dismas |(talk) 07:07, 30 November 2009 (UTC)


 * "Mercury Poisoning" by Graham Parker and the Rumour. --TammyMoet (talk) 15:25, 30 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Here are some, hooray Scandium getting the recognition it deserves.  meltBanana  15:43, 30 November 2009 (UTC) Looking through last.fm in order by atomic number, Nickel is the first one word element that I cannot find a song for, although 'Nickel Bags by Digable Planets is a good song. These two albums should fill in some of those hard to reach elephants.  meltBanana  16:07, 30 November 2009 (UTC)


 * If you'll allow French Jean Michel Jarre's Oxygene. Love is like Oxygen by Sweet (band).  -- LarryMac  | Talk  16:54, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

"Tin soldier", by the Small Faces; "Tin soldiers" by Stiff Little Fingers; "Tin man" by America (there are loads more with "tin"); "Nickel song" by Melanie; "Nickel bridge" by Avail; "Paper and iron" by XTC; "Iron man" by Black Sabbath; "Iron fist" by Motorhead; "Iron lion Zion" by Bob Marley; "Iron maiden" by Iron Maiden; "Radium eyes" by Count Zero; "Sails of silver" by Steeleye Span; "Silver and gold" by U2; Silver dagger/machine/star/lady/threads and golden needles etc etc etc; "Silicon Valley rebel" by Allette Brooks; "Plutonium" by Major Matt Mason USA; "Platinum blonde" by Blondie; "Platinum blonde life" by Gwen Stefani; "Phosphorus" by Eufonius; "Cadmium" by Superchunk; "Sulfur" by Slipknot; "Skullfull of sulphur" by Ash; "The sulphur man" by Doves; "Gunpowder and lead" by Miranda Albert (probably tons more with "lead" but its homonym "to lead" makes it impossible to search for); "Neon" by John Mayer; "Neon lights" by Kraftwerk; "Neon knights" by Black Sabbath; "Dansa i neon" by Lena Philipsson; "Neon rainbow" by The Box Tops;  "Radon balloon" by Oysterhead; "Petrol and chlorine" by Silverchair; "Cobalt blue" by The Back Horn; "Carbon monoxide" by Regina Spektor; "Carbon monoxide" by Cake; "Carbon place" by Mando Diao; "Carbon" by Tori Amos; "Life rarely begins with tungsten film no.2" by The Besnard Lakes; "Tungsten carbide" by µ-Ziq; "Arsenic chick" by The Warlock Pinchers... everything but the kitchen zinc, by the looks of it :) Grutness...wha?  00:47, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
 * PS - there;'s also a list of elements as part of the lyrics of Shriekback's wonderful song "The reptiles and I" Grutness...wha?  00:52, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

There's a Jesse McCartney song called "Oxygen." Ha, ha. Hm, if the song "GOLDen Slumbers" by The Beatles counts, well there's that one. And also, "Maxwell's Sliver Hammer" by The Beatles, and "The Lining Is Sliver" by Relient K. Moptopstyle1 01:34, 1 December 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Moptopstyle1 (talk • contribs)


 * "Heart of Gold" by Neil Young; "Sister Golden Hair" by America. "Goldfinger" by Shirley Bassey. Probably lots more with "Gold" in them. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 03:42, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Wow, this is really impressive! Thanks a lot everyone! --Dr Dima (talk) 03:20, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I'll tack on one more: "Lithium Sunset" from the album Mercury Falling by Sting . 10draftsdeep (talk) 15:11, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Left 4 Dead 2 Cover
I was gonna get left 4 dead 2 on ebay for the Xbox 360 and I noticed that there are two different covers for the game, there's a green cover and a yellow cover, what's the difference, I know if you pre-ordered the game you could get an in-game code to get a baseball bat, is the yellow covered game the one that came with the code and the green covered game is the one that didn't come with a code and for that matter is the baseball bat worth getting at all or is it just like alot of shooter/fighting games, when you've used one of them, you've used them all? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.3.15.129 (talk) 08:25, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

I found out there is no difference to it at all except the fact that the cover is different. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.3.15.1 (talk) 23:53, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Sim city 3000 (pc) cheat not working
When I enter the cheat "call cousin vinnie" it only gives me the money once. Is this a one time cheat?Accdude92 (talk to me!) (sign) 14:20, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm pretty sure you can only do that once. Fribbler (talk) 15:14, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

a couple of movie ratings
Can anybody tell me what the movies Pan's Labrynth and Princess Mononoke were rated by the Canadian Home Video Rating System, and if either could be watched by a 14 year old. Library Seraph (talk) 17:09, 30 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Internet Movie Database is what you need here. You can search for a movie by entering it's title (and setting "Title" in the box) and then when you'e reached the page for the movie click on "parental guide" on the left. The page for Pan's Labyrinth is here, with the ratings at the bottom. Quebec gives it a 13+ and the rest of Canada at 14A, so it's pretty much on the border. However remember ratings are very variable. The page also gives specific descriptions under various categories. The page for Princess Mononoke is here. DJ Clayworth (talk) 18:39, 30 November 2009 (UTC)


 * I look for these reviews regularly for work, and I use BC Film Classification and Ontario Film Review Board. Also, look at the back of the box.  It's printed on there, too.Aaronite (talk) 18:51, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I also see fairly regularly that the Canadian and US ratings are often radically different, with a Canadian PG on the same item as an American R. Canadian ratings tend to be much, much more relaxed with sex and language, and a little more concerned with violence, so overall Canadian ratings are lower than American ones.Aaronite (talk) 18:53, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * An interesting example of such variation is the movie Amélie, which you will find in the IMDB under its original French title Le fabuleux destin d'Amélie Poulain: the rating varies all the way from U (which I assume means "universel" = G-rated) in France up to R in the US and 18 in South Korea, with other countries all over the range in between. Why?  Sex yes, violence no.  --Anonymous, 21:35 UTC, November 30, 2009.
 * On a more subjective point, Pan's Labyrinth is a harrowing film. Different children have different tolerances, but I would be wary of showing it to a 14 year old unless I was quite sure they were okay with that sort of thing. If you haven't already seen it, and you know the child, I would watch the film yourself and decide whether to show them it after that. 86.166.148.95 (talk) 20:09, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

When I asked if either of those movies would be appropriate for a 14 year old, I was referring to myself.I agree with you 8.166.; after reading the parental raings for Pan's Labrynth I've decided I should wait a few more years. Thanks for the help everybody Library Seraph (talk) 17:21, 1 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Good choice. And when you do finally watch it, when you're a bit older, try to watch it with someone else. Then you'll have someone to talk about it with, which will probably help (as well as increasing your enjoyment). 86.166.148.95 (talk) 20:45, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Rock Band/Guitar Hero instrument compatibility?
I swear there was a chart on Wikipedia that showed what instruments worked with what game. Specifically, are Rock Band 2 instruments compatible with the new Band Hero? (I know all the Band Hero instruments are the exact ones from Guitar Hero World Tour) --70.167.58.6 (talk) 19:10, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

If you go to there is a whole page of compatibility info. Hope that helps! I've used it before, and was disappointed to hear that the Beatle Rockband instruments aren't compatible with Guitar Hero: World Tour. But, I still appreciate it. --Moptopstyle1 01:58, 1 December 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Moptopstyle1 (talk • contribs)

Song title help
Female singer. Something about 'share with' something and 'hate life' or 'hate myself'? Soundtrack to a ghostie movie? --24.187.98.157 (talk) 20:55, 30 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Female singer who sings about hating herself or her life? Maybe Avril Lavigne or Fiona Apple or Liz Phair would be good places to start.  -- Jayron  32  21:21, 30 November 2009 (UTC)


 * I guess it's besides the point, but Avril Lavigne doesn't sing about hating herself... Adam Bishop (talk) 03:12, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Anyone??
I asked a few days ago with no response... I seen Rob Zombie live recently and durring the song American Witch he had a specific animation playing on the screen behind him with zombies and witches. Is this something spacificly made for the song/tour or is it from something else? Can anyone tell me the name of the cartoon? Thanks74.218.50.226 (talk) 21:01, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * A Google search for 'rob zombie american witch cartoon' returns a video from YouTube as its first result. If that's the animation you're talking about, it does appear to be something made specifically for Rob Zombie. --Onorem♠Dil 21:12, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Guess this movie
In this film a serial killer gets a lift from a guy travelling across America. On the way he tries to scare the shit out of the guy by putting an alive venomous spider on him. At last, on reaching home the guy finally decides to confront him with a shotgun, but runs out of ammo. Then he kills the serial killer by holding an axe and adhsieve-tapeing it to his wrist. What I can't remember is the name of this film. Can someone please be kind enough to tell me what the film was... Jon Ascton   (talk)  23:47, 30 November 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm guessing it was not "Terms of Endearment". Explain how he killed the guy by taping an axe to his wrist. I'm not getting the mental picture there. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 06:17, 1 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, he is not-so-young. First he tries to shoot him with a shotgun but fails to hit the target and runs out of ammunition. Then he takes an axe. But his hand is shaking (he is an old guy, remember) so to make sure it does not falls off his hands he securly wounds adhseive tape around his hand gripping the axe handle. Jon Ascton    (talk)  09:57, 1 December 2009 (UTC)


 * It sounds a "The Hitcher" knock-off to me. -- k a i n a w &trade; 06:32, 1 December 2009 (UTC)