Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Entertainment/2009 September 14

= September 14 =

Song from youtube video "Twin Kin"
Does anyone know what the song from the youtube video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YzLETGXtyk is? It seems very familiar to me but I can't quite put my finger on what it is. The video uses two songs I think but the one that I'm referring to is the one that starts at 1:35 mins in the video. If anybody could tell me what this song is, it'd be highly appreciated. :-) 70.107.77.67 (talk) 02:31, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

American football kicking accuracy...
From an AP article today:

Elam missed only two field goals all of last season, and had ranked third in league history in extra point accuracy (641 of 644 before this year).

641 of 644, 99.53%, and he's only THIRD? Who the hell are in front of him? 218.25.32.210 (talk) 07:36, 14 September 2009 (UTC)


 * The article on Jason Elam claims he's in FIRST place all-time for extra-point conversion percentage, although it does not appear to specifically cite that claim. NFL.COM might provide some detail. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 08:01, 14 September 2009 (UTC)


 * The stats are here. Rian Lindell is 248 for 248 (Struck that.  That is highest percentage for 200 or more consecutive kicks, not for total career kicks). --  k a i n a w &trade; 12:27, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
 * That appears to be for a career, with the stipulation of at least 200 kicks. That puts Elam at 4th or lower (perhaps owing to his missed kick yesterday -- does he now have 3 misses or 4?).  Note that those ahead of him are so largely because they've had fewer opportunities for something to go awry. &mdash; Lomn 14:43, 14 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Another note: Highest accuracy by percent is rather useless without stipulation. A person who only tries once and makes it has 100% accuracy. --  k a i n a w &trade; 12:31, 14 September 2009 (UTC)


 * It should also be noted that kickers at the professional level really are supposed to make all of their extra points. It should be automatic.  Missing more than 1-2 in a season would leave any kicker out of a job; I have seen kickers get fired after missing two in a game, which is outrageously bad at the NFL level.  Kickers, being the longest-lived players in the game (many play well into their 40's), means that there aren't many openings in any year for kickers, which means that one must be VERY good to stick around.  -- Jayron  32  18:15, 15 September 2009 (UTC)


 * The few muffed extra points each year tend to be placement screwups. And even field goals of less than 30 yards are supposed to be practically automatic. That's why they get paid the big bucks. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 18:22, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Which is in fact a paltry sum compared to the top end players for other positions. Googlemeister (talk) 15:38, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Emily osment
When did she get her ears pierced?Accdude92 (talk) (sign) 13:24, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Is the online browserbased MMORPG Evony any good?
just got an account and I want to know if it is worth it. ThanksTim Tebow ROCKS!!!!!! (talk) 14:41, 14 September 2009 (UTC)


 * We don't do opinions here at the reference desk. We just answer factual questions. I recommend an online forum. However if you've been drawn to the game by the advertisements, you might like to read our article Evony which will explain the important differences between the adverts and the game. DJ Clayworth (talk) 14:42, 14 September 2009 (UTC)


 * You might also be interested in this article. DJ Clayworth (talk) 19:06, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Online computer game-players - Statistics
Is there a modern equivalent for http://archive.gamespy.com/stats/ (not updated since 2004)? Or other sites for other genres? Eg. we have http://www.mmogchart.com/ for MMOs (though of variable reliability and regularity).

Not how many people bought a game, but how many average/realtime players there are for each game, ideally in a plot-over-time?

I'm mainly asking out of personal curiosity, so the site's don't need to be Reliable enough for article use (though that would obviously be a great bonus). Or is this kind of information simply impossible to get publicly nowadays, and not frequently speculated on somewhere obvious?

(I couldn't see anything at WP:VG/Templates#External link templates or WP:VG/Article guidelines or even WP:VG/RS. I asked at the VG wikiproject, but noone replied and the query was archived.) Thanks. -- Quiddity (talk) 20:10, 14 September 2009 (UTC)


 * I present you with this chart. Back out to mmogchart.com if you want charts of smaller MMOs, different time periods, and the like.  Comet Tuttle (talk) 20:42, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
 * (That's what I meant to link, with my mmogchart example linked in the eg ;)
 * Is there anything even vaguely related for other online genres? FPS, RTS, etc? I want to know how many people still play halflife2/source games regularly (or "at-this-minute"), how many play quakelive/quake3, how many play halo2 on px and/or xbox... etc. I can't find good numbers anywhere. Anything related. PC games preferred, but I'm curious about console usage too. But, Per-game-title numbers, not system-aggregate or game-"sales" numbers. -- Quiddity (talk) 23:24, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
 * While it wouldn't cover all PC games, Steam has a very large user base and they do record public statistics of their users (via an opt in hardware survey. They also record the amount of time you have played games you have purchased or activated through Steam, so there is a potential for the company to release "popularity by hours played" statistics for games they sell.  (It is possible this information is available already, I just haven't found it)  Perhaps you could ask in their forums or email a representative about including anonomous playtime information in their next round of statistics?  Unfortunately I do not know an up to date site that gives the information you are looking for. Caltsar (talk) 19:20, 15 September 2009 (UTC)