Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Entertainment/2010 December 10

= December 10 =

Unable to place a list on a page
A pole that was taken can not be shared. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BingAndWiki (talk • contribs)
 * Is this a riddle or a koan of some sort, like the sound of one hand clapping? -- Jayron  32  01:22, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Looking at the OP's contributions, he or she is trying to add a section to Magic (illusion) about a poll of the best living magicians, and is getting repeatedly reverted for not supplying a source. No specific details are provided either. Clarityfiend (talk) 02:02, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Also on Sleight of hand, where it appears to be a non-notable Internet poll. Clarityfiend (talk) 02:08, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I got that. But it was still a very odd sentance, taken out of context. Especially given his mispelling of "pole" and the juxtaposition of the words "taken" and "shared".  Its actually quite a deep idea, the idea of things which are taken but not shared.  Whatever, I need some sleep.  -- Jayron  32  04:55, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I protected the pages last night because of the repeated attempts by IPs to add. And somehow I don't think the Microsoft, who supposedly did this poll, ever did it. Dougweller (talk) 07:06, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Talking of misspellings, Jayron, it's "sent ence ". I hereby sentance (oops) you to your favourite punishment for consistantly (oops) spelling these types of words in your special way.  :)  --   Jack of Oz    ... speak! ...   17:30, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
 * As loung as my favourite punishment is having tou include those silly extraneouus "U"'s intou wourds where they are nout prounouunced like the british dou... -- Jayron  32  17:36, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

sitcom, 1981
In Thursday's New York Times crossword puzzle, 55 Across: "Site of a 1981 sitcom honeymoon" = OAK.

What was the show? —Tamfang (talk) 02:05, 10 December 2010 (UTC)


 * From doing a couple of searches, I discovered that "Honeymoon" is the name of an episode of Mork and Mindy, and that episode was set on Mork's home planet of "Ork". I am going to guess that an "r" fits in the middle space in that word.


 * For those of you not old enough or not from the US or whatever, Mork and Mindy was a sitcom television show starring Robin Williams as Mork, a being from another planet who comes to visit Earth and ends up getting to live with Pam Dawber.


 * rc (talk) 04:02, 10 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Looking at the puzzle again, I see I miswrote AGAR as AGAA! Else I need not have asked (I do remember the series). Thanks. —Tamfang (talk) 04:30, 10 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Oh, shazbot. Clarityfiend (talk) 05:35, 10 December 2010 (UTC)


 * I didn't get to finish that one today (yesterday, now) but I do recall thinking that was going to be a tough clue. Anyway, you can find the explanation here.  I usually hit up that site after I finish the puzzle just to see what bit of trivia I haven't fully understood.  Dismas |(talk) 05:43, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Miscalls in World Series
So far, I know that in Game 6 of 1985 World Series, an umpire made a miscalled when a Cardinal caught the ball before a Royal reached the base and in 1992 World Series, Blue Jays' Kelly Gruber caught a Brave out when reaching second base. Is there any miscalls in the World Series we should know about? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.89.42.226 (talk) 02:43, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
 * For the first, you're thinking of Don Denkinger. -- Jayron  32  04:49, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
 * For more recent blown calls, see 2009_World_Series or this article of said game at ESPN. -- Jayron  32  04:52, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
 * In game 3 of the 1992 World Series, an umpire failed to notice the final out of a triple play. Matt Deres (talk) 14:49, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that's the Gruber play the OP mentioned. (It started with an awesome catch and throw from Devon White in centre field, too.) Adam Bishop (talk) 18:35, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
 * The Denkinger call might be the most outrageous, as it turned the Series around. In the 1948 World Series, on a pickoff play, Indians' shortstop Lou Boudreau put the tag on a runner on second and the umpire called him safe, in what looked like an obvious out. The runner soon scored the only run of the game. It didn't affect the Series outcome (the Indians beat the Braves in 6) but the loss was pinned on Bob Feller, who never won a Series game. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 08:06, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Miscalls....err calling it the world series when there is only one country involved

"A Charlie Brown Christmas" is rated WHAT?
I didn't get to watch the first run of A Charlie Brown Christmas, so I watched it online at ABC's website. After the "limited commercial breaks", the TV content rating appeared in the upper corner, as it does with any other show. However, I was shocked to see the show was rated TV-PG! Seriously?!? I've tried Googling and can't find a site that describes why the show was rated that way. Any ideas, fellow Wikipedians? -- McDoob AU  93  06:24, 10 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Good question - could be the speech in the finale, I suppose. Haven't seen that one in a long time. UltraExactZZ Said~ Did 13:22, 10 December 2010 (UTC)


 * TV ratings are about as sensical as movie ratings or video game rating. That is, there is no objective measure of what the TV show is rated, it's just one persons (or sometimes a handful of people's) opinion of what it should be rated.  It usually means next to nothing. -- Jayron  32  13:25, 10 December 2010 (UTC)


 * I agree with Jayron about the inaccuracy of the ratings. As far as your question, the only thing I can think of is the possibility of Lucy calling Charlie Brown a blockhead and other demeaning things, which some people in current society would perceive as Bullying. 10draftsdeep (talk) 14:14, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

For movies, the ratings often include content descriptors ("for mild peril", "for a scene of sexuality", etc.), especially on print ads and theatre posters. Video games have an entire website where people can look up a game and see why that game got the rating it did (such as this example for the just-released Disney Epic Mickey). But I haven't had luck finding a similar website explaining why TV shows get the ratings they do. I do agree with some of the comments thus far; I wonder if it has to do with the show's unashamed religious angle, or with the "violence" and "bullying." -- McDoob AU  93  17:48, 10 December 2010 (UTC)


 * And don't forget the lesbian relationship between Marcie and Peppermint Patty. :-) StuRat (talk) 05:49, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I think you'll find that Peppermint Patty does not appear in this film. APL (talk) 06:28, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Neither of them had appeared in the strip yet, at that point. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 15:05, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
 * In the final part of the opening scene (beginning from about 1:59 in this video), Snoopy grabs Linus' blanket and throws Linus and Charlie Brown across the pond. Charlie Brown slides across the ice and smashes headfirst into a tree. In the original Coca-Cola-sponsored airing, Linus also crashed into a Coca-Cola billboard, although this scene was cut in 1968 after Coca-Cola dropped its sponsorship. That violence was certainly permissible in children's shows in the 1960s, but the PG rating is given because parents these days don't want their children exposed to anything that doesn't involve fluffy bunnies and rainbows. (I watched Looney Tunes and Tom and Jerry all the time when I was a kid, and I turned out all right...) It's quite sad, because I think every child should see the special and understand its message. Xenon54 (talk) 15:58, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
 * There was actually a noticeable amount of verbal and physical violence in Peanuts. Lucy says "I oughta slug you" at some point in the special, and frequently did so in the strip. But the boys never hit the girls. Schulz said, "Girls hitting boys is funny. Boys hitting girls is not funny." If parents really want to protect their kids, they should prevent them from watching news programs and cop shows, which are about actual, real-life violence. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 22:25, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Perhaps all media including Charlie Brown should be rated PG for soul-crushing depression. Really, it's  played for laughs, but it's a wonder that kid never jumped off a bridge. APL (talk) 00:23, 12 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Well, yes, many parents do protect their little children from the news and aggressive shows. How is this related? PG is Parental Guidance, isn't it, as opposed to the lower rating which is suitable for everyone without checking? Which means parents know there's something to check before letting little children watch it, but, depending on the child, it will probably be okay for an older child. It doesn't at all equate to preventing a child ever seeing it, or imply that parents who don't show it to their children will let those same children watch the news that evening :/ Seriously, what is this? 86.161.208.185 (talk) 00:24, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Seriously, it's probably Linus's speech. If you weren't bringing up your child to be Christian you might not be happy with the biblical Christmas story being presented in such a matter-of-fact way. Not a problem if the parent is there choosing to watch christmas shows, but enough that you might want your V-Chip to remove it from your kid's unattended viewing. APL (talk) 01:05, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Indian postal code
what is zip code & postel code of india ,madhay pradesh

and what importance of the zip code — Preceding unsigned comment added by 25prashant25 (talk • contribs) 07:28, 10 December 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure what this has to do with entertainment, but you will find the answer in our article on Indian Postal Index Numbers.--Shantavira|feed me 11:42, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

I suspect prashant has been asked for his ZIP code while registering on some Internet site. ZIP codes only apply to the US, so I usually just enter random numbers when a registration procedure absolutely demands it, and I suggest you do the same. There is more information in our article: ZIP code. TomorrowTime (talk) 16:33, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
 * As someone who works in an internet business, entering random numbers can confuse people/automated address systems. Very few countries don't have postcodes (ROI is one) - if you don't have one, it's best to enter NONE or N/A in the box. Exxolon (talk) 14:06, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually, re-reading it for registration purposes random is fine, just not for when you're actually ordering online! Exxolon (talk) 14:09, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Exactly. I was talking about some few pages where the registration absolutely demands the ZIP code and you have no alternative - as if only Americans ever went on the Internet. TomorrowTime (talk) 20:15, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Fanfare for the Common Man
Good day,

In your "Fanfare for the Common Man" article (reference page?), in the entertainment section (TV, etc.), I spotted an error (I am almost 100% sure).............you state that the TV Show CBS Sports Spectacular used this piece of music as its opening theme. If I recall correctly, "Fire on High", by Electric Ligt Orchestra (ELO) was the opening theme.

Could you please verify, and correct if necessary

Thanks

RAB —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.119.75.11 (talk) 16:02, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
 * According to our article on CBS Sports Spectacular, both were used at different times. Arakunem Talk 16:57, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

retro Toronto Blue jays jerseys
Do you know where I can find a website that showcase the jerseys that were worn by the Blue Jays from 1977 to present? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.89.40.41 (talk) 23:13, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
 * The baseball hall of fame has a database of every uniform ever worn by every team. See this page to start your search. -- Jayron  32  00:23, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

That's helpful alright but it doesn't help me about the mysterious dark blue jersey they had before. When did they use it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.29.33.127 (talk) 16:33, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Marc Okkonen's book Baseball Uniforms of the 20th Century, from which the Hall of Fame article is apparently derived, covers uniforms through 1991, and does not show any dark blue shirts. Home shirts were basically white, and road shirts were kind of a medium-light blue. The old minor league club, Toronto Maple Leafs (International League), appear to have used a dark blue, so perhaps the Jays had a one-use special "retro" shirt that referred to the Leafs? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 20:01, 13 December 2010 (UTC)