Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Entertainment/2010 February 23

= February 23 =

John Lennon
Okay, I asked a question a long time ago, and I had some answers and stuff, but one bothered me. My question was if John Lennon was charged for a assault he committed, no one answered that, but I did get responses when I said, "Oh I forgot to mention, he was DRUNK." and somebody replied "I don't think being drunk would effect his behavior" or some comment like that. Well, being drunk DOES effect your behavior. Right? I know it does. He was in a drunken rage read the book! Also, was he ever charged for assault? Moptopstyle1 ("I Feel Fine.") (talk) 05:27, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
 * No. --Normansmithy (talk) 12:36, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Whoa....That wasn't the assault I was talking about. I never even knew that happened! The assault I was talking about took place in the mid 60s, and John had attacked a Disc Jockey who made a comment about John's vacation with The Beatles' manager, Brian Epstein. (he asked him "how was your honeymoon?" knowing that Epstein was gay) John attacked the man in a drunken rage, and I believe he broke some of the man's ribs. That was the thing I was talking about, but I NEVER knew he hit a photographer. Yikes, like what Baseball Bugs said, "an Alternative way to say 'Give Peace a Chance.' " ;) (I love John by the way, I'm not a playa hate-a) ;) (wellllll.) Moptopstyle1 ("I Feel Fine.") (talk) 02:51, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Oh, lookie what I found. "John was under the influence of too much alcohol and proceeded to beat up a disc jockey at Paul McCartney's 21st birthday party. Brian came to the rescue and wrote a check to avoid a law suit."  Moptopstyle1 ("I Feel Fine.") (talk) 03:03, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Which Rupert and Stevie
Klaatu's song "Sell Out" contains the lyrics: Every man has his selling price I'm taking the highest bid Come out of the clouds, Sir Rupert said And do what Stevie did I have a strong feeling that "Stevie" is referring to "Stevie Wonder" because he had just gone very "commercial" (the best way I can think to put it). Which Sir Rupert is he referring to? Knowing the answer to that, is it a different "Stevie" all together? -- k a i n a w &trade; 05:11, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Rupert Perry, then head of A&R at Capitol Records. (Google is your friend.) --jpgordon:==( o ) 05:30, 23 February 2010 (UTC)


 * He isn't in the Sir Rupert list. I believe it is because a CBE doesn't make you a "Sir".  So, the song is incorrect in referring to him as such.  Still, it does fit.  They were selling out to Capitol Records at the time.  Thanks. --  k a i n a w &trade; 05:36, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
 * http://www.klaatu.org/interviews/endangered.html might interest you. --jpgordon:==( o ) 05:51, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

1900 and 85 song
i heard a song on the radio maybe by the birds that had lyrics like "in 1900 and 85" or "in 1900 and 81" or something whats the song called it sounded like 70's or 80s rock / pop  with a upbeat tempo. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thekiller35789 (talk • contribs) 06:33, 23 February 2010 (UTC)


 * It is probably Nineteen Hundred and Eighty-Five by Wings. -- k a i n a w &trade; 06:38, 23 February 2010 (UTC)


 * I second the Wings song suggestion. The description matches exactly. Aaronite (talk) 15:32, 23 February 2010 (UTC)


 * I vaguely remember something like this from (Jeff Wayne's Musical Version of) The War of the Worlds, possibly the song The Eve of the War. Astronaut (talk) 11:50, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Is it Space Odyssey by The Byrds? That starts

"In nineteen and ninety-six we ventured to the moon Onto the the Sea Of Crisis like children from the womb We journeyed cross the great wall plain beneath the mountain range and there we saw the pyramid, it looked so very strange" hotclaws 18:54, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Types of stories
Was reminded by a line in the above Avatar question, "There are no original ideas". I remember reading some time ago about a list of every type of story, there were maybe 20 or so story archetypes that every story could fit into. Maybe even less than 20. Anyone know what this is or where I could find this list? Gunrun (talk) 11:28, 23 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Are you thinking of the seven basic plots?--Shantavira|feed me 11:33, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
 * (Edit Conflict) Quite possibly yes, unless there is a more in-depth version (For instance I seem to remember it having more indepth ones, for instance person fights culture, person joins culture, person rebels against original culture story which is Avatar or Dances with Wolves or even The Fast and The Furious, which is more indepth than these 7 types. Gunrun (talk) 11:37, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
 * See also The Thirty-Six Dramatic Situations. AndrewWTaylor (talk) 11:34, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Somewhat unrelated, but The Hero with a Thousand Faces might also be of interest. TomorrowTime (talk) 12:41, 23 February 2010 (UTC)


 * The idea there are 7 basic plots, or 36, or whatever, is all a matter of opinion, and although perhaps useful for analysis, none of it is canonical. Another variant I heard is that there are 2 basic plots ("Somebody goes on a journey" and "A stranger comes to town").  No doubt someone has come up with a list of 100.  Comet Tuttle (talk) 21:08, 23 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Depends on how finely grained you take it. Seems like Shake-speare had basically TWO: Comedy and Tragedy. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 03:05, 24 February 2010 (UTC)


 * ... because he never wrote any Histories. For the record, Shakespeare's plays were classified primarily by the editors of the First Folio, and the only consistent difference between "comedy" and "tragedy" is that there's a wedding at the end of one, and a death at the end of the other.  Nowadays, many are called "romances," but even that is a stupid label.  What, exactly, is Troilus and Cressida -- a parody?  And Timon of Athens truly defies categorization (except in a list of "Shakespeare's failures"). 63.17.65.39 (talk) 04:13, 24 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Yes, there are tons of possible plots, but there are very few popular plots. I heard it on a sitcom once (forgot which one): The public doesn't want anything new.  They want the same old thing over and over.  Hmm... I hear Bart Simpson's voice - I bet that came from the Simpsons. --  k a i n a w &trade; 04:31, 24 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Futurama. Fry said something like that when the Omicronians made them recreate a Jenny McNeal episode. "TV audiences don't want anything original. They wanna see the same thing they've seen a thousand times before" 98.226.122.10 (talk) 09:42, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

What is the Fifth-largest record label??
What is the Fifth-largest record label?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.89.61.83 (talk) 18:02, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
 * In the world? In the US? In Andorra? Specify, so we can help you further. TomorrowTime (talk) 18:06, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
 * In the World187.89.61.83 (talk) 21:42, 23 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Almost certainly Disney Music Group. 63.17.65.39 (talk) 04:40, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

michael jackson 1997 munich concert
What is mj looking at in the audience when he says, "Wow, look at that! Do that again! Wow!" —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tresormoi (talk • contribs) 18:49, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Music Piece in the song Gone till November
The mexican orchestra piece sounds so familiar. Where is it from? --Reticuli88 (talk) 19:49, 23 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Do you have a link you can refer us to? I heard no Mexican orchestra, neither on the original "Gone till November" nor on Wyclef Jean's own remix. I suspected you might mean his "Guantanamera" (though originally Cuban, not Mexican, and featuring the unforgettaible Celia Cruz), but clarification might help. ---Sluzzelin talk  20:51, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

In this, when he sings the chorus, the violins sound eerily familiar. Sounds like a part of a Mexican folk song... --Reticuli88 (talk) 21:06, 23 February 2010 (UTC)


 * They sound vaguely like "Ah, look at all the lonely people" from "Eleanor Rigby" to me. --  Jack of Oz    ... speak! ...   08:32, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

I hear what you are saying Jack! Do you know of any folk Mexican songs that use the violins? --Reticuli88 (talk) 14:10, 24 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Well, any song could be arranged for any combination of instruments you like, and some of these combinations could include violins. Apart from that, nothing springs out.  --   Jack of Oz    ... speak! ...   12:43, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Rampage 2 Universal tour
can u use vehicles in this game like the other rampage game if so how? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Crack n cheese (talk • contribs) 21:13, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Entirely non full-time professional sports
Which sports competed at an international level, high standard or any kind of high profile, have absolutely no full-time professional players?

I suspect curling to be one of these, is there any definitive list/answer for others?

Thanks in advance 86.179.210.58 (talk) 23:44, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Amazing. Even the very best curlers, such as Glenn Howard and Kevin Martin, have regular jobs. Clarityfiend (talk) 01:02, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, curling is the only one I can think of, as well. However, is it a professional sport? One would think it isn't if all the athletes hold other jobs. In theory, a professional athlete would not need to hold another job, as playing the sport is their job. I would categorise Olympic curling as "amateur", or at best "semi-professional." So the answer to 86.'s question is "no", because there are no part-time "professional" sports in the strictest sense of the word. Fully professional sports require a level of dedication and training that is not possible while holding another job.
 * Although it is not strictly athletic, refereeing in most sports is also part time. For example, football referees Martin Hansson is a firefighter, and Pierluigi Collina is/was a banker. The referee at a Washington Capitals game I went to (his name is escaping me) was a high school principal. Xenon54 / talk / 01:28, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Curling is undoubtedly a professional sport. Many bonspiels offer cash prizes. First prize for the 2010 Tim Hortons Brier is $10,000. It's just that apparently you can't make enough to earn a living from that alone. Clarityfiend (talk) 02:32, 24 February 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm thinking Softball. Does Hurling count?  Woogee (talk) 03:10, 24 February 2010 (UTC)


 * I expect there to be many. Just from the current winter Olympics, I doubt bobsledders (or any sledders) live solely off sledding.  Similarly, I don't think cross-country skiing makes enough money to only do that.  Any target sport will be limiting in income: shooting or archery.  I feel that the only way to survive in those sports is through endorsements.  Then, you have a job - a spokesperson for a product.  I'd be happy to be wrong. --  k a i n a w &trade; 04:03, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
 * If being a spokesperson for a product makes you "not a full-time professional" or somehow part-time, then most of the top atheletes in the U.S. would be "part-time professionals". Many top atheletes make more money from endorsements than from their pay, even those making several million dollars per year just for playing the game; they often make many MORE millions per year as professional pitchmen (or women).  -- Jayron  32  16:26, 24 February 2010 (UTC)


 * A lot depends on where you're playing the sport. For example, UK cross-country skiers may well not be full-time, professional athletes, but doubtless Petter Northug would be as Norway's national sport is cross-country skiing! --TammyMoet (talk) 16:33, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Until very recently, British Rugby Union was entirely amateur (lucrative sponsorship deals excepted). The 1993 England squad included a doctor, a fighter pilot, a policeman, a lawyer and a farmer. Alansplodge (talk) 10:26, 26 February 2010 (UTC)