Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Entertainment/2010 February 4

= February 4 =

Arsenal Soccer Club
Is the Arsenal Soccer Clubs acronym GET? Like Denmark's Acronym is DAN, or Norway's is NOR, or Canada's is CAN, or China's is CHN.174.3.98.236 (talk) 00:26, 4 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Well, one of these things is not like the others. The last 4 you list are all abbreviations used for national teams in international competition, like the Olympics.  The only abbreviation I have ever seen for Arsenal is AFC, as noted at Arsenal F.C..  -- Jayron  32  00:42, 4 February 2010 (UTC)


 * I saw a soccer game on a channel today, it was GET against another team.174.3.98.236 (talk) 01:05, 4 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Are you sure you weren't watching Getafe CF vs Sevilla FC? The 2009–10 Copa del Rey semi-final was today/yesterday and a bit of googling tells me it was shown in North America on Fox Soccer Channel. Nanonic (talk) 02:09, 4 February 2010 (UTC)


 * I saw it in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada at around 3:10pm. On screen, they had 3 letter acroynms, so I'm not sure if GET was Getafe CF.174.3.98.236 (talk) 03:57, 4 February 2010 (UTC)


 * At the Sorrentio's cafe in West Edmonton Mall. The (one) t.v. that was on, showed it.174.3.98.236 (talk) 04:04, 4 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Arsenal and Getafe seem to have similar kits, if that helps. Wow, I think that's the first time I've ever used the term "kits"!) Adam Bishop (talk) 05:13, 4 February 2010 (UTC)


 * In the UK, when Arsenal appear on TV, the three-letter abbreviation used is ARS. Which is a source of amusement to non-Gooners! --TammyMoet (talk) 18:20, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

barbershop quartet song
I was watching a rerun of Emergency! on hulu. The episode I was watching was "Firehouse Four". In a latter portion of the episode, Johnny and Marco rehearse a song. It opened with "We are for some girl that dresses neat, a girl that's got big feet, she's walking down the street...." At least that's what those lines sounded like. Johnny and Marco are then joined by Hank, Mike, and Chet. I'm trying to find out what the song's name is. Anyone know?24.90.204.234 (talk) 09:42, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I googled ["some girl that dresses neat"] and it looks like the song is "Goodbye, My Coney Island Baby", a number from 1924. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 13:51, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

No, it's not. The one I'm talking about has a more upbeat tempo.24.90.204.234 (talk) 15:24, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
 * If you don't think that's the song from the episode, why did you vandalize the article page to say that it was? Or have you changed your mind? Please don't add stuff to articles you know to be incorrect. 64.235.97.146 (talk) 17:42, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
 * The other words of the lyrics that the OP quoted matched the references I saw in google. Being upbeat or whatever has nothing to do with it. Most any melody can be orchestrated to be upbeat or downbeat. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 20:59, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
 * GBMCIB is one of the most upbeat barbershop numbers there is. This rendition is also a good refutation of the opinion that Wikipedia editors are the greatest geeks on earth. (I particularly like the aircraft noise in the middle.) Deor (talk) 00:45, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Franco Harris, Jim Brown, the rushing record controversey, and the Browns-Steelers rivalry
Al the news about the Super Bowl and the new class of Hall of Fame enshrinees to be announced soon got me to thinking. I recall when I was young that Franco Harris got a lot of flak, especially from Jim Brown, for his running style, going out of bounds a lot instead of getting a few extra yards. This grew as the 1984 season neared, to the point that Brown threatened (hopefully jokingly) to unretire and extend his record if Harris passed it. As it was, Harris didn't pass it, and Walter Payton eventually became the first of a few to pass Brown.

Now, my question is, were Brown's histrionics due solely to the record, and Harris being deemed not as worthy of it? Or, were they borne more out of the intense rivalry between the Browns and Steelers? I don't know much about the rivalry in the era when Brown played, but they were still nearby cities, so I would suepect that it was still big. Did he ever (at least officially) state that he really couldn't stand to see his record "broken by someone from *that* team"? After all, Jackie Robinson retired rather than play for the Giants. (Admittedly, being in the same city made that rivalry perhaps the biggest there's ever been.)

Of course, some might say it was implied, but that would probably call for more speculation than is wies on the desk.Somebody or his brother (talk) 20:43, 4 February 2010 (UTC)


 * I can't say, but I would speculate it had more to do with Jim Brown's ego than anything. Keep in mind the Steelers were an NFL doormat for most of their existence until they completely reversed course in the 1970s and became a perennial contender and frequent champion. Also, Brown was forgetting that the objective of the game is to win, and Harris would have been using a strategy that worked for the team. Brown and Payton liked to hit the defenders hard. That's not a requirement, though. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 21:02, 4 February 2010 (UTC)


 * There's a "tough guy" image that pervades football to this day. Players often put their bodies at risk on every play, which can be reckless, considering that a badly injured player is less of a value to his team than one who ducks out-of-bounds rather than take a hit.  Its a balance between giving everything you are capable of, and being so reckless as to actually harm your team by your own recklessness.  In the modern NFL, the "Harris" style would seem to be favored given the focus on preventing concussion.  The so-called "classic" type players would find themselves so penalized they would hardly be able to play.  Night Train Lane built a career out of tackling people by the neck.  He turned the clothesline tackle into a viable defensive strategy.  Can you imagine a player today getting away with that.  This is all actually a good thing, as players from the past are almost all universally crippled from their injuries.  -- Jayron  32  00:31, 5 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks; I hadn't thought about how much the game had changed; wow, those defenders from the old days were tough. LOL, I guess the Steelers were pretty bad when Brown played; i'm just so used to hearing about the "Curse of Three Rivers" growing up (The Browns didn't win a game in Pittsburgh, if memory serves, from 1970 to about 1987.)Somebody or his brother (talk) 16:05, 5 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Players were made of tough stuff in the old days. It boggles my mind that Hall of Famer Bill Hewitt, who played end for primarily the Bears, played without a helmet for most or all of his career. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 05:14, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Thank You for Finding
Can someone identify the japanese tapestry behind the actor in these stills from the movie Thank You for Smoking:,. You can also see it here (2.40/5.16). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.51.62.164 (talk) 21:33, 4 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Trying to get a Japanese 'specialist' onto this. Don't get your hopes up! If it's a copy of a famous tapestry, maybe. 3.36 is good view too.--220.101.28.25 (talk) 06:36, 7 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Ooh. Identifying ukiyo-e artworks. My favorite. Not that I'm *really* an expert, mind you. Don't go asking me for appraisals or anything - on that stuff, I haven't a clue haha. ^_^ This is basically the best shot I imagine we're going to get of it - sadly, it's too blurry blown up, and too small, um, small. So, not much that can be said about it definitely, like naming the artist for example. But it's definitely an ukiyo-e work. The original work it's based on, assuming this wasn't concocted by the filmmakers (or someone they hired) to simply be in the style of ukiyoe, would have been a woodblock print on a sheet of paper (or two) no larger than a regular sheet of looseleaf paper; traditionally, such an image would not be seen on any kind of tapestry or wall-decoration, excepting the possibility of the print being mounted into a hanging scroll, but that's still very different from what we see here.
 * The red and yellow columns on the top right would identify the name of the series, the title of the image, and such things like that. Definitely a later work, probably early to mid 19th century. Full-color prints weren't invented until 1765, and by the 1850s they were on the way out. Looks like Utagawa school or perhaps Utamaro, though I couldn't say for sure who it's by. I can say for sure who it's not by - some big names - Hokusai, Harunobu, Sharaku, Kaigetsudo school, Katsukawa school, Torii school (except Torii Kiyonaga; it could be by him).
 * Thanks for the fun exercise. Sorry I couldn't tell you more. If you're interested in such things, Jack Nicholson's character in The Departed has a collection of Japanese shunga (erotic prints) prints on his wall which can be seen in the background in some shots. Personally, I'm a big fan of the use of famous paintings in Sukiyaki Western Django - the large paintings in each clan's hideout are real, actual, very famous paintings by big name artists. A red phoenix by Hokusai, and a white cockatoo by Ito Jakuchu if I remember correctly. LordAmeth (talk) 08:41, 7 February 2010 (UTC)


 * You can only try Ameth Sama! At least you don't have to seppuku! Domō Arigatō Gōzaimasu! (Tran: Thank you very much!). —220.101.28.25 (talk) 09:26, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

What is the name of this song? CLASSICAL MUSIC
What is the name of this song being played at 5:11? --Reticuli88 (talk) 23:58, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
 * They are Igudesman & Joo's own variations on "I Will Survive". Here is the full clip. ---Sluzzelin talk  12:29, 5 February 2010 (UTC)