Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Entertainment/2010 July 15

= July 15 =

Original name of Stade Josy Barthel
Reading the article on the Stade Josy Barthel reveals that the stadium was first built in 1928, but didn't carry the name of Josy Barthel until 1993. Does anyone know what it was called prior to that? I have a hunch that it was yet another Stade Municipal to go with the others in Luxembourg, but I'd kinda like to find something that confirms or refutes this. Cheers,  AJ Cham  01:08, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
 * This page (and this one, possibly) would confirm the hypothesis the stadium has once carried the name Stade Municipal. --Магьосник (talk) 02:46, 15 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Indeed, but they're not conclusive. The sources which support those pages do indicate that the matches were played at a Stade Municipal, and given that they are Luxembourg home games it is most probably the Josy Barthel as that is the national stadium.  My hunch was based on similar reasoning from having read other sources, but I'd still love to know if there is something concrete which can put this beyond doubt.  AJ  Cham  07:01, 15 July 2010 (UTC)


 * A quick google search indicates that the name "stade municipal" is given to the city's indoor stadium, located on "rue du stade". So Josy Barthel likely had another name before 1993. The stadium is in the suburb of Belair, but I couldn't find any reference to it having been called the "Stade de Belair" either. Someone with access to an older city guide would need to help. --207.236.147.118 (talk) 14:48, 15 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Stade Josy Barthel is at the intersection of Rue d'Anton Route d'Arlon and Rue du Stade. Perhaps there are indoor and outdoor stadiums in the same complex.  I googled for maps of Luxembourg City, figuring I might find some older ones.  I found several that appear to show "Stade Municipal" at the location where Stade Josy Barthel now is, but in all cases the lettering was too small to have been scanned clearly.  Here's one dated 1967, here's one with no date (used in 1998, but I assume they grabbed an older map that was handy), and here's another one with no date.  And, most interesting, this one (which is supposed to be current) seems to have originally shown "Stade Municipal" and then had "Stade Josy Barthel" added as an additional label pointing to the same place.

--Anonymous, 21:59 UTC, correct 23:01, July 15, 2010.


 * Good work, my anonymous friend! That seems clear enough to me.  Whatever other facilities exist on that complex (such as the Hall Omnisports mentioned above), surely the country's national stadium would be deemed the most important and therefore the one named on a map.  Stade Municipal it is then. Cheers!  AJ  Cham  22:20, 16 July 2010 (UTC)