Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Entertainment/2010 July 20

= July 20 =

Scene from unknown movie
What I remember:

There was a guy who peered through his window for decades and wrote down everything that seemed peculiar to him. He happened to note something about a car on the street (might have been the plates too, I'm not sure).

It was somehow related to a crime, a robbery a murder maybe, or perhaps the car was stolen.

I've watched hundreds of movies and tv shows so eliminating them one by one would take me months.

Please Wikipedia, you are my only hope! 78.8.244.88 (talk) 01:53, 20 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Could it have been a Monk episode? Monk's agoraphobic(?), equally brilliant brother Ambrose (played by John Turturro) is confined to his house, but makes keen observations. He's in three episodes. What, Obi Wan wasn't available? Clarityfiend (talk) 05:24, 20 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Rear Window? Mitch Ames (talk) 13:25, 20 July 2010 (UTC)


 * I haven't seen either Monk or Rear Window... The guy who took notes had his house filled with boxes of notes, sorted by month/year, IIRC. 78.8.244.88 (talk) 14:08, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Probably not Rear Window then. The main character was only obsessed with peering out his window for a couple of weeks or months while his broken leg healed. APL (talk) 15:09, 20 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Might be Disturbia (film). I haven't seen it, but it's widely considered to be a 'rip-off' or at least a 'homage' to, "Rear Window", so it may have the scene you're thinking of. APL (talk) 15:11, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Though not a movie, I recall a similar scene to the one you described in an episode of CSI. I believe Catherine and one other CSI went to this mans house to see if he witnessed anything, and he said he keeps notes on anything going wrong (kid being too loud, pants too low, car too slow). He had tons of boxes in his house with pieces of paper shoved in them. He only sorted them by month so they had to go through the whole box to see which paper had the info they wanted. He seemed to be a very curmudgeonly middle-aged man. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.55.9.68 (talk) 15:50, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

question, predator 2 article
im looking for the article about an unwanted predator movie sequel [unknown sequel with the predator that looks like super-sentai]. it disappeared. i saw it months ago. looks like no one wants to remember it, that it disappeared in the records. =) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.1.67.147 (talk) 05:30, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Paolo Nutini @ Cavea Auditorium
There was this Scottish indie band playing 6 songs before Paolo Nutini two days ago at Cavea in Rome, Italy. Band's name is made of two words (the second one is 'Corner'), however the first one remains mysterious! Help anyone? SwampyQ2 (talk) 08:42, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Not Scottish, not a band and not called Corner, but I think you are talking about Liam Gerner. --Viennese Waltz talk 09:25, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes sir, to all three. I saw this curly blonde guy before them, the Corner-band was #2 just before Nutini. SwampyQ2 (talk) 14:56, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
 * P.S.: Never mind VienneseWaltz's reply, keep googleing! ^^ SwampyQ2 (talk) 14:57, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Still not "Corner", but could it be a misheard "Carly Connor" (as seen here opening for Nutini on July 16)? Deor (talk) 17:15, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
 * The Cavea's website too lists those two (Gerner and Connor) as supporting acts. . ---Sluzzelin talk  20:14, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Yup, I misheard the drummer shouting the band's name to me, it is Connor indeed. Thanks, ppl! SwampyQ2 (talk) 20:29, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Not actually a band name, then. --Viennese Waltz talk 20:52, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Nobody got it right, I just wanted you to feel better because of your effort. SwampyQ2 (talk) 18:13, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

Highlander TV song identification
Could someone please help identify the title and artist for the song at the start of Highlander: Forgive Us Our Trespasses? Youtube video here. Thanks. 124.214.131.55 (talk) 12:19, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
 * According to a reply to the same question posted on Youtube, it's called "Ever Mounting Motion" and is not available outside the show itself. No indication of the artist.--Michig (talk) 15:24, 20 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Thank you. I had scanned the comments, but for some reason the response is listed before the question, so I must not have noticed it. I too had been looking for this song off and on for the last 13 years. 124.214.131.55 (talk) 22:11, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Mystery Song again
I apologize for wasting anybody's time by asking about songs, but having people answer my queries about unknown songs rather than searching for them is preferred to me.

Anyways, I would like to know the name, artist, and release date (not just a link to the article, please) of the following described song. It sounds 90's alternative to me, and contains the chorus lyric "You could see the road that they walked on was paved with gold/It's always summer, they'll never get cold" and the repeated phrase "Where were they going without ever knowing the way?"

I'm sure it's fairly famous, but I don't know, and please don't be short with me. Thank you. 98.240.190.197 (talk) 14:44, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
 * The Way by Fastball (released 1998). --Viennese Waltz talk 14:49, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
 * A tip for the OP: If you type the following into Google: lyrics "Where were they going without ever knowing the way?", the first hit gives you the correct answer. --Zerozal (talk) 16:53, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah the OP already said he didn't want to do that. Not sure why, but I don't care, I like answering questions like this. --Viennese Waltz talk 17:07, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Snopes.com
Most of us who visit snopes.com regularly must have noticed one thing peculiar about this website : it is not possible to select text from the website like we normally do from a website. Of course this can be easily done, using javascript etc. perhaps, but is there some really important reason behind this precaution  Jon Ascton    (talk)  19:02, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Whether or not it's "really important" is simply opinion, but undoubtedly the reason is to prevent standard copy/paste, thereby encouraging links instead. &mdash; Lomn 19:46, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I just went to their website and scanned the first comment: "Good Luck, Mr. Gorsky!: Did Neil Armstrong cryptically utter "Good luck, Mr. Gorsky" as he stepped onto the moon?" Maybe it's different on different pages, or maybe it's a browser issue? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 19:59, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Just to be clear, did you copy from the main page or the article? For me, it works for the former, but not the latter.  A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 20:03, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
 * The home page. And you're right, it doesn't work. Probably for the reason Lomn indicated. You could take a print-screen, but that would be kind of tedious unless you've got a program that can discern text characters in a bitmap object. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 20:13, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
 * And while I didn't intend this to be about the Gorsky joke, snopes either missed or dismissed the explanation I've seen, that it was a joke told by Buddy Hackett at a dinner featuring the Apollo astronauts. That might be apocryphal too, but it sounds like something Buddy could have said. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 20:16, 20 July 2010 (UTC)


 * The reason is either paranoia or an extreme sense of "ownership" of the material. And an extreme sense of the stupidity of your readership. (Kind of insulting, really.)
 * There are a zillion ways around this. My favorite is to keep a bookmark bookmark bar to  Hitting that bookmark doesn't take you anywhere, but it disables most of these sorts of annoying scripts.
 * APL (talk) 00:52, 21 July 2010 (UTC)


 * You can Edit -> Select All, then prune what you don't want. Everard Proudfoot (talk) 01:34, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I poked around in the source and yeah, they're using JavaScript to mess with highlighting. I also recall in the past having difficulty with other important stuff like scrolling on that site, but I can't find anything in there that should do that now. I don't even know if it's still doing it or not because I've since disabled JavaScript, with exceptions for the few sites that I feel deserve it. It turns out that most sites work splendidly without JavaScript, and indeed some sites (Snopes included) are enhanced by the lack of awful JavaScript. Reach Out to the Truth 04:36, 21 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Right click in article > View Page Source > select text.--Shantavira|feed me 05:57, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Except that you have to get rid of all of the html code. Everard Proudfoot (talk) 06:11, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * They are probably counting on the vast majority of editors not bothering to pursue that tedium. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 23:48, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

what's the wrost soccer team of alltime?
i knen that the washington sentors were the wrost baseball team of alltime but who's soccer's wrost? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anitalisica (talk • contribs) 23:05, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
 * On the level of competing nations, Montserrat followed by Bhutan (at least in 2003, according to The Other Final, right now it seems to be American Samoa). ---Sluzzelin talk  23:10, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Currently, the lowest FIFA-ranked teams (tied for 202nd place) are Montserrat, American Samoa, San Marino, Anguilla, the Central African Republic, and Papua New Guinea. San Marino have four draws and one win to their name, Anguilla three wins and one draw, CAR a minor cup, PNG 16 wins and 13 draws, and Montserrat one win and one draw (both against Anguilla). American Samoa is the only team, then, that still has not earned a result in a FIFA-sanctioned international match. Their only win was 3 - 0 against Wallis and Futuna, which are not members of FIFA, and American Samoa was not a member of FIFA either when the match was played. Since joining FIFA, the Samoans have lost 20 - 0 to PNG and 31 - 0 to Australia, the world record for the heaviest defeat in an international match (but not a league match). I agree with Sluzzelin's conclusion that American Samoa are the worst team in the world. Xenon54 (talk) 00:20, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Let me give a source for the above information: here are the six teams that currently have 0 points for the FIFA World Rankings. Of the women's teams, the weakest one is apparently the Comoros. --Theurgist (talk) 09:44, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * A remarkably bad team that is not a FIFA or UEFA member would be the national team of the island of Sark, a Channel Island with a population of 600. That team has only played four games in their history, never managing to score and conceding a total of 70 goals. They lost 0–19 to Gibraltar, 0–20 to the Isle of Wight, 0–16 to Greenland, and 0–15 to Frøya. --Theurgist (talk) 09:59, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

At club level, the world record for the highest scoreline is AS Adema 149–0 SO l'Emyrne - the article explains what happened. Ghmyrtle (talk) 10:54, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * But that doesn't make SO l'Emyrne a weak team. They had been contesting the Malagasy championship title until that game, and they have additionally been crowned champions of Madagascar in one occasion (in 2001). --Theurgist (talk) 12:25, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * True, but then American Samoa are probably not the worst either. They would probably beat American Samoa B.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 16:22, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * So are Australia the best national football team in the world just because they have recorded the biggest-margin victory ever? Or are AS Adema the strongest football club worldwide because they are holding the record for the highest scoreline, even though it was achieved in rather freakish circumstances, to put it mildly? This should certainly rank among the most pointless discussions ever led on the refdesks :P --Theurgist (talk) 22:17, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually, I reckon either American Samoa B or SO l'Emyrne - or even Sark - would run rings around Burton Brewers - won 0, drawn 0, defeats 18, goals for 3, goals against 234. That must take some beating. Returning to the original question - it's all (obviously) a matter of which level the team is playing at.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 22:27, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * By defining this discussion as "pointless", I did not demand that I was by all means right. I was referring to those endless quarrels - so typical for the football fans in my country - about whose favourite team is stronger. Every side would adduce any tiny item of football history or statistics as incontestable evidence of their rightness. You're probably aware of that, as one who lives in Wales. I'm sorry if I failed to make it clear enough. --Theurgist (talk) 22:47, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah yeah I know - I replied in seriousness because the original poster might not "get" the conversation. :) Ghmyrtle (talk) 22:55, 21 July 2010 (UTC)