Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Entertainment/2010 June 7

= June 7 =

looking for a song
It was produced in 2000 - 2003, and the lyrics are:" I'm looking through those glass of ?pain? ..oooooohhhh " , these are the only vocals in the song, and this is trance / techno song , and also largely instrumental. Probably an remix but im not sure. 85.220.44.42 (talk) 13:30, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Comic obscenity
Years go I watched a black-and-white documentary about a nightclub comic who replaced every word in his act likely to get him in trouble with the authorities, who were stated to have been in the club at the time, with a completely innocuous word like "elbow". (The word may even have been "elbow" but I am not sure of that.) I thought the comic was Lenny Bruce, but I can't find a reference to such a performance. I tried George Carlin, and was equally unsuccessful. Does anyone know of whom I write and what the documentary was called? Thanks Bielle (talk) 18:15, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
 * This sounds like it was the inspiration for a Stephen Fry and Hugh Laurie BBC sketch about replacing obscenities with made-up words. The word they used for bumhole stuck in my mind: "pimhole". --TammyMoet (talk) 18:29, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

While not a documentary, the 1974 film Lenny starring Dustin Hoffman as Lenny Bruce was in black & white.Chief41074 (talk) 19:22, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I can't do a proper search here at work, but I'm 99% sure it wasn't Carlin; I'm very familiar with his stuff and that doesn't ring a bell for him. As TammyMoet mentioned, it's not an uncommon trope; it was also done on an episode of Night Stand with Dick Dietrick as well, for example. I forget the specifics, but one of the "safe" words was chimichanga, pronounced as "chimmy chunga". Matt Deres (talk) 20:21, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Chief41074 might be onto something. Has anyone seen the film, or remembers a scene such as I have described? I wonder if Blockbuster has it. Bielle (talk) 02:51, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Both Blockbuster and Netflix have it. Dismas |(talk) 03:41, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
 * It could also have been the documentary Lenny Bruce: Swear to Tell the Truth. --Richardrj talkemail 11:56, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

House episodes
I remember reading about a house episode but I don't remember what it's called, or what season. I only remember that Wilson gets a team in this one to diagnose cancer or something. Can someone ID this episode? Thank you. 76.229.204.9 (talk) 19:23, 7 June 2010 (UTC)


 * I did a quick scan and came up with nothing. To scan yourself, our article List of House episodes has links to House (season 1), House (season 2), etc, and those articles have a synopsis of each episode.  I didn't see anything like the plot you describe.  You can click on the individual episode articles for more detail than the synopses give.  Comet Tuttle (talk) 19:52, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Wilson_(House_episode) is Wilson-centric, and the team get involved in a case for Wilson's friend. Vimescarrot (talk) 21:00, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
 * During "Airborne", Wilson leads the team in diagnosing a woman having seizures, while House and Cuddy deal with an apparent epidemic on a plane. Not cancer, but the only one I can think of where Wilson is properly in charge of the team. Steve  T • C 23:46, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Seeking a "historically informed" CD of Beethoven's 9th Symphony
From the wikipedia entry on Beethoven's 9th Symphony (in the "Notable performances and recordings" section):
 * "There have been various attempts to record the Ninth to come closer to what Beethoven's contemporaries would have heard, such as recording the Ninth with period instruments. Roger Norrington conducting the London Classical Players recorded it with period instruments for a 1987 release by EMI Records (rereleased in 1997 under the Virgin Classics label). Benjamin Zander made a 1992 recording of the Ninth with the Boston Philharmonic Orchestra and noted soprano Dominique Labelle (who first performed the work with Robert Shaw), following Beethoven's own metronome markings. Twelve years later after Norrington, Philippe Herreweghe recorded the Ninth with his period-instrument Orchestre des Champs-Élysées and his Collegium Vocale chorus for Harmonia Mundi in 1999. Sir John Eliot Gardiner recorded his period-instrument version of the Ninth Symphony,[21] conducting his Monteverdi Choir and Orchestre Révolutionnaire et Romantique in 1992. It was first released by Deutsche Grammophon in 1994 on their early music Archiv Produktion label as part of his complete cycle of the Beethoven symphonies. His soloists included Luba Orgonasova, Anne Sofie von Otter, Anthony Rolfe Johnson and Gilles Cachemaille. An additional period-instrument recording by Christopher Hogwood and the Academy of Ancient Music was released in 1997 under the label Éditions de l'Oiseau-Lyre."

I believe such recordings/performances are called "historically informed". I'd like to find a good "historically informed" CD of Beethoven's 9th Symphony to give to my Dad, who loves Beethoven, especially the 9th. However, in trying to shop for such a CD (on Amazon or wherever), I'm having difficulty identifying which CDs are what I'm looking for. For example, I can find a CD like Beethoven Symphonies 1-9 or Beethoven: 9 Symphonies, but are these the recordings I'm looking for? I'm afraid that when it comes to shopping for classical CDs, it's hard for me to tell which CD is likely to be a good choice, and which is likely to be a poor quality recording, or in this case, just the usual non-historically informed performance.

Any help anyone can provide would be most appreciated.

Thank you!!!

--Jedikaiti (talk) 23:17, 7 June 2010 (UTC)


 * The recordings by Norrington, Gardiner, and the others mentioned would certainly qualify. I looked to see if the Orchestra of the Age of Enlightenment had released a Beethoven 9th yet, but apparently they have not (there are reviews of a live concert in April 2010 here).  I haven't heard any of these recordings so can't vouch for their quality.  Does your dad like "period instrument" recordings (aka "historically informed...")?  Personally I've had mixed results; sometimes they are unbalanced and out-of-tune, and I find their accelerated tempos for Beethoven to be unmusical (there's a bit of debate over whether Beethoven really meant his metronome markings, since they are often bizarrely fast, compared to what we have become accustomed to).  You may be able to listen to clips from some of these online before deciding, but any of these ensembles fit the bill.
 * There's a New Yorker (?) cartoon I saw once, that showed doctors clustered around a patient on the table in an operating room. One was turned towards the viewer, announcing:  "We will perform this operation using period instruments." Antandrus  (talk) 03:27, 8 June 2010 (UTC)


 * He hasn't expressed any particular interest, but he's bloody impossible to shop for, and I think he'd enjoy checking it out, whether he decides he likes it or not. Do you think the CDs I linked to are what I'm looking for? I honestly don't know, does Norrington JUST do "historically informed" or might these be more conventional? Thanks! Jedikaiti (talk) 04:17, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I think any reasonably recent recording by Roger Norrington would be "historically informed" (or "authentic" as we used to say). I remember a performance (conducted by him) of the 9th a year or two ago from either the Proms or the Edinburgh Festival where among other things the slow movement was played  much faster than I've ever heard before. (From a link in our article: it may have been as described here. AndrewWTaylor (talk) 13:38, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Wonderful - thanks!Jedikaiti (talk) 14:22, 8 June 2010 (UTC)


 * In quite a different musical vein, if he's hard to shop for, you could consider CD's made from George Gershwin's piano rolls, which opens the door to a once very popular and important, and now essentially vanished, form of entertainment. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 14:27, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I'll have to remember that for Christmas - thanks!!! Jedikaiti (talk) 18:39, 8 June 2010 (UTC)


 * For what it's worth, I've long loved Gardiner's 9th. The Norrington is good too, but for some reason I prefer Gardiner (perhaps for sheerly nostalgic reasons). In particular I like the relatively fast speed of the Turkish March and the following fugue. Whenever I hear either done in the more common slowish style, I find it sounds plodding rather than sparkling. Pfly (talk) 09:12, 9 June 2010 (UTC)