Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Entertainment/2010 March 19

= March 19 =

A sports competition
Please help me find a season of a sports league, tournament or competition that matches the following criteria: Thank you in advance. --Магьосник (talk) 01:01, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
 * It may be a tournament of any kind of individual or team sport;
 * It may be an international tournament or may include contestants or teams from one country only;
 * It is not the only ever season of that tournament, i.e. there has been at least one more season of the same competition (e.g. the 2009–10 Premier League satisfies this, because there have been 2008–09 Premier League, 2007–08 Premier League, etc);
 * (most importantly) It spans over a period of more than two calendar years (e.g. the 2006 IAAF World Cup and the 2006 Formula One season were entirely held in 2006; the 2008–09 UEFA Champions League and the 2008–09 NHL season were held in both 2008 and 2009; none of them satisfy this because I need a season including parts of at least three calendar years);
 * The period specified above does not include qualification or preliminary tournaments (e.g. the 2010 FIFA World Cup is not what I need even though the 2010 FIFA World Cup qualification was held in 2007, 2008 and 2009, and the tournament itself will be held in 2010).


 * From what you've written, it seems the critical point is that the league has spanned 3 years. That'd be 367 days long at a minimum, which is an awfully long time. Has someone told you that such a league definitely exists? Or are you just fishing about? 218.25.32.210 (talk) 01:13, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
 * No, I'm not fishing about. I continued my searching after posting the question here and I think I found what I needed. Here's what I found: 2008-2010 European Nations Cup First Division, 2006-2008 European Nations Cup First Division, 2004-2006 European Nations Cup First Division. This should mean that the question is resolved, but should you find something else, I shall highly appreciate it. --Магьосник (talk) 01:27, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I wonder what prompted the question. In any case, don't rule out the world championships of 43-Man Squamish, which might drag out a tad. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 02:22, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
 * A single game of Hunt the Wocket can go on for years.DuncanHill (talk) 11:01, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I needed the information badly, and after some unsuccessful searching I decided to ask you for help. I was almost sure such a competition didn't exist here in Europe, and I'm barely acquainted with the sport leagues that are popular in other continents. I thought I was lucky to post the question at a time when North America-based users are most active. To my surprise, I found a European tournament matching the requirements shortly after posting the question. I didn't think you would define that period as "an awfully long time". The Brazil national football team began their qualifying campaign for the 2010 FIFA World Cup in October 2007 and may potentially become world champions in July 2010. --Магьосник (talk) 23:40, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Music - radio theme tune
Cn anyone tell me what the theme music for Julie Enfield Investigates (currently being repeated on BBC7) is? It was also used as the theme for the BBC radio adaptation of Rogue Male with Michael Jayston. I've got a feeling it might be by Philip Glass. DuncanHill (talk) 02:50, 19 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Apparently Façades.  meltBanana  04:01, 19 March 2010 (UTC)


 * That's it - many thanks. DuncanHill (talk) 10:59, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Fess Parker - Awards
I am currently updating Fess Parkers' article. It appears he never won any Emmys or similar awards. The only source I have found so far is this LA Times article, HERE. Does anyone have any information/ sources about any awards he or his TV shows etc. may have received? Even awards for his wines would be notable. Any help appreciated! --220.101.28.25 (talk) 06:34, 19 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Fess Parker won the 1986 Golden Boot Award. From the University of Texas alumni association, he won a Texas Exes Distinguished Alumnus Award. Pepso2 (talk) 20:59, 20 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks Pepso2. I'll follow up on these. :)--220.101.28.25 (talk) 03:30, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Horror movie - what was the name of it?
I'm asking for movie name. Lady with her child(a little boy or a girl) board an airplane. Somewhere during the flight child disappear. She looks everywhere on the plane but could not find him. Investigation started after landing but there was no trace of any child board the airplane with her... Thank you in advance!:) Vitall (talk) 07:21, 19 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Is it Flightplan starring Jodie Foster? --Anonymous, 07:28 UTC, March 19, 2010.


 * Yes, thank you! Vitall (talk) 07:30, 19 March 2010 (UTC)


 * BTW, the child was a girl, not a boy. Woogee (talk) 17:49, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

And since when was "Flight Plan" a horror movie? I would call it a wwell made thriller/ action maybe? Horror??? Unless and untill you were horrified with the movie.

Porn films
I'm curious, but not curious enough to do Original Research: do porn films bother much with plot, dialogue and generally making sense, or do they just do enough of those things to link together the sex scenes? What proportion of a porn film is typically, ummm... action? Is there much work for screenwriters? --Hence Piano (talk) 15:31, 19 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Like any category of entertainment, there are going to be exceptions to any generalizations we make; but, in general, no, porn films don't bother much with plot, dialogue, or generally making sense. The prominent exceptions are from the "porn chic" era in the 1970s, with films like Deep Throat and Behind the Green Door.  Aside from those, no, there's not a lot of screenwriting.  I believe the amount of "plot, dialogue, and generally making sense" has gotten even smaller, in the aggregate, since the 1990s, when amateur porn started becoming a larger and larger segment.  Comet Tuttle (talk) 17:50, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
 * You know, i tend to think there is a recent return to appreciate plots and stories in the realm of porn. This is reflected in 21st century titles like Pirates and gay series Wet Palms that have story lines. They tend to be highend productions (expensive), however, in this day of freely available internet porn. Check out AVN Awards, which celebrate excellence in Adult film-making which includes technical categories like "Best Screenplay". You'd best check out the website linked at the bottom, our article obviously doesn't list all past awards. From there, you can check out which studios produce titles that feature storylines. --Kvasir (talk) 18:03, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

I suspect (but admit I have no firm evidence of this) that the proportion of all porn consumed comprising feature-length films has gone down a bit since the advent of the Internet. Among feature-length films however, there is a distinction between American films (typically featuring at least superficial plots) and European ones (which often are more cinema verité, so to speak). Such European films often feature actors from a wide variety of linguistic backgrounds, typically making dialogue impossible. There are of course many exceptions. Gabbe (talk) 21:02, 19 March 2010 (UTC)


 * It seems to me that mainstream cinema/TV and porn are coming together... Therefore, the traditional cinema moving into porn will likely have more plot development.  For example, there's Spartacus_blood_and_sand. StuRat (talk) 03:25, 20 March 2010 (UTC)


 * The plot is already secondary for lots of traditional cinema, the only difference is that they have things blowing up instead of sex. The second Transformers movie doesn't really have a plot at all. Adam Bishop (talk) 20:33, 20 March 2010 (UTC)


 * I think there is a historical dimension of this. In the 1970s, filming anything that wasn't just a 16mm "loop" required extensive investment in equipment, lighting, sound, and post-production (developing the film, etc.), and on top of that, there wasn't much of a "home market" for films of any sort (you needed a projector). With the widespread use of VHS technology in the 1980s, though, you suddenly had the means to do extremely cheap productions with wide distribution. With the widespread use of the internet, much less digital cameras, this trend got projected (har har) even further. The result is that on the whole, with any individual production the amount of technical investment required has decreased dramatically. With the internet, the major push is on cheap (low overhead) content that is updated rapidly (daily, weekly, etc.), which doesn't favor anything more than the most cursory of plots. There are exceptions to this but I think by and large (har har) most porn on the internet is leading towards being plotless, and even in movies that do have "plots" of sorts, they proliferate as cropped "scenes" of 10 minutes or so more than they do full-length features. Yes, again, there are a couple notable exceptions, but they are notable because they are exceptions. (And I suspect they do not break even, but are done in order to raise the profile of their studios, which gives the studios certain other benefits.) --Mr.98 (talk) 23:23, 20 March 2010 (UTC)


 * In 8mm (film) a porn producer (or seller?) says something like Do you have any idea how bad a porn movie has to be before people start complaining? 195.35.160.133 (talk) 11:32, 23 March 2010 (UTC) Martin.

gargling in musical
I was looking through the IMDB at On the Town. When I learned one of the keywords was 'gargling', I wondered if anyone gargled in one of the songs or while their lines were being said. Anyone know?24.90.204.234 (talk) 22:45, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Google indicates it's got a song or a scripted line or something that says "I got the gargle!" I haven't seen the film in decades, so I can't recall it specifically. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 23:14, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
 * The only other number I can think of with gargling is a portion of Spike Jones' rendition of William Tell OvertureAt about 35 seconds in. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 23:17, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Celine Dion gargles song: Wasn't there a recording of "Holiday for Strings" with the vocalist laughing all the notes? Pepso2 (talk) 07:27, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

What does the gargling in the William Tell Overture and Celine Dion gargling "My Heart Will Go On" have to do with my question about whether anyone gargled in On the Town or not?24.90.204.234 (talk) 22:22, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I know we're getting off topic here, but Weird Al Yankovic gargles in "Smells Like Nirvana"  caknuck °  needs to be running more often  07:03, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
 * In On the Town the gargling is a comedy bit by Alice Pearce as Lucy Schmeeler, the sneezing roommate, who says, "I got the gargle". Although she was the only person from the Broadway production to repeat her role in the film, she only had one song ("I Understand" reprise) which doesn't seem to have anything to do with her cold. The bit might refer to a Bayer Aspirin ad campaign of the 1930s which used photos to show how gargling with Bayer Aspirin was a cure for the common cold. On the Town lyrics: Pepso2 (talk) 11:51, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

I checked the lyrics. But I couldn't find anything about gargling. Are you referring to the stage version or the film version?24.90.204.234 (talk) 12:38, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Comparing the Broadway song list and the film song list, the song Alice Pearce did on Broadway was dropped from the film. There are some On the Town clips on YouTube, but the Lucy Schmeeler sneezing bit isn't there. Whether or not she actually gargles, I dunno. What is your interest in this? Somehow Jean Shepherd making music by hitting himself on his head seems a bit more fascinating. Pepso2 (talk) 15:37, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

I was going to order a copy of the most recent cast recording version of On the Town, and then give it to someone. Thus, when I read the article about how impolite gargling is during social activities, I'm not so sure I should do that.24.90.204.234 (talk) 04:14, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep in mind it's a musical comedy. However, there was some "sanitization" of the play for the movie, starting with the opening number, "New York, New York, a hell of a town..." which was changed to "...a wonderful town..." for the movie. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 18:38, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

"Sanitization"?24.90.204.234 (talk) 02:38, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Or "G-rating" it. Keep in mind that was ca. 1950. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 02:53, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Impactful Movie from childhood
I've been searching the web to find out the name of a movie from my past. It was aired on television in the late 60's early 70's because I remember watching it several times in my living room when I was a child (born 1966). I believe it was in black and white and my guess is that it was made in the 1940's.

The movie revolved around the relationship of two young children (I'd say no more than age 12 no less than age 7). I believe it was a boy and a girl. I don't remember how they became aquainted in the movie but they were from families of different religious backgrounds.

I'm guessing (at the age I was at the time I didn't have much of a context for various religions)that the boy was Catholic/Christian and the girl was maybe Jewish. They were under the impression that they should not attend each others churches but they were curious so they each did sneak in to a service of the others.

My memory goes blank except that I remember that they were in a canoe type boat floating down the current of a deep creek. The girl stands up in the boat for some reason and is knocked unconcious by a tree limb. I can't remember if the girl becomes very sick (maybe pneumonia or something from getting wet) and/or dies. But, I remember the boy blames himself deeply because he thinks they angered God and God is punishing them because they snuck into each other's religious service.

I remember watching on television similar religious themed movies in my elementary school years such as Song of Bernadette (1943) and Miracle of Our Lady of Fatima (1952) which were earlier theatrical releases. Any information appreciated! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tsbonney (talk • contribs) 22:54, 19 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Hand in Hand (1960). Deor (talk) 02:26, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

This is my first effort on Wikipedia so I'm probably not doing this right but ...I've got goosebumps I'm so excited. That is the movie I was searching for. Thank you so, so much!!Tsbonney (talk) 03:08, 20 March 2010 (UTC)


 * You did well ! The only thing you could do better is to pick the "edit" button up by the title of the question when you add a new response.  I fixed it this time, and marked this Q as resolved.  (Also, you might want to break long posts into paragraphs for easy reading.) StuRat (talk) 03:16, 20 March 2010 (UTC)


 * StuRat, could you link to an example of "a long post broken into paragraphs, " since an editor trying to indent will have text appear in a box,  and individual blocks of text separated by blank lines may look like unsigned posts. Thanks. Edison (talk) 12:55, 21 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Well, you can sign each individual paragraph, if you want. StuRat (talk) 16:16, 21 March 2010 (UTC)


 * I do that at times. StuRat (talk) 16:16, 21 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Or, if you're the original poster, and don't indent anything, that makes it fairly obvious that it's all your own post. StuRat (talk) 16:16, 21 March 2010 (UTC)


 * I've now gone through and added paragraph breaks to the original post to show what I mean. StuRat (talk) 16:24, 21 March 2010 (UTC)