Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Entertainment/2011 August 3

= August 3 =

"Super 8" Super 8 Cameras
Does anyone know what type of Super 8 cameras they used in the recent J.J. Abrams movie, "Super 8" 76.176.137.161 (talk) 00:52, 3 August 2011 (UTC)


 * In this interview, Abrams states "it was a Eumig camera." We don't seem to have a Eumig article, and I haven't found any details on the specific model.  -- LarryMac  | Talk  17:38, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

Captains
Is it possible for a teams to have co-captains because one of them is injured or what? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mybodymyself (talk • contribs) 02:34, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
 * The captain being injured would seem to be covered by the old concept of having a vice-captain. But the formal concept of co-captains is frequently used in the Australian Football League. This is a sport played over a very large area, and where all players are routinely swapped on and off the field. Having more than one "capatin" seems to make good sense. HiLo48 (talk) 02:42, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
 * In Ice Hockey, teams may designate three captains: Either one full Captain and two Alternate Captains or three Alternate Captains. Information is at Captain (ice hockey).  The captain's main responsibility in hockey is to communicate with the referees; only a Captain or Alternate Captain may do so.  In baseball, captain is a fully honorary position, and has no standing at all.  According to Captain (baseball), only three teams currently have an official captain.  In American football, any number of players may be named "Captains"; like baseball the job is fully honorary (the captains typically participate in the pre-game coin-toss to determine initial posession, and may have other minor roles like delivering the official roster to the game officials and stuff like that.)  I have been at American football games where as few as 1 or as many as 10 captains have been named for a team.  Looking at National Football League team captains, most NFL teams have at least one captain for each platoon (offense, defense, and special teams), though some may have more or less.  In Association football, the captain is likewise an honorary position, see Captain (association football); I had thought that the rules were similar to Hockey captains; but according to that article they do not have exclusive rights to talk to officials, so it looks like there's not much to be lost if a captain isn't on the pitch.  -- Jayron  32  03:26, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for both of your answers to my question here. This all interesting for sure. Tell you the truth American Ice Hockey is an import Canada, Jayron. Still its a major sport in both America and Canada. Unsure what's the popularity of American football in Canada because there's no teams in that country at the moment. Of course that can change in the future. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mybodymyself (talk • contribs) 03:47, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I never said anything about Ice Hockey being American. And I was unaware you were looking for Canadian sports in particular, since you never mentioned that.  I am uncertain of what the captaincy rules are for Canadian football for example.  -- Jayron  32  04:03, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh, and one American football team does play in Canada. -- Jayron  32  04:04, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

--Jessica A Bruno 04:32, 3 August 2011 (UTC)Tell the truth you I'm an American who is only highlighting that ice hockey originates from Canada. Not the other way around. Exactly, American Football isn't a series because it's more taxing the body. Or whatever it's called to be series.
 * For the record, American football originated in Canada as well; the first major games of "rugby style" football played in the U.S. were introduced by the Harvard/McGill games in 1874, see History of American football. Prior to that, football games in the U.S. were usually closer in style to soccer games.  And I have no idea what you are talking about WRT American football and series.  Like the ice hockey comment you made, I am unable to see where the answers to these questions lead you to make your comments... -- Jayron  32  04:49, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

"El Tango de Roxanne"
In the film Moulin Rouge!, during the absolutely amazing "El Tango de Roxanne", Ewan McGregor sings other words besides those from The Police's "Roxanne". Are the words from another song, or were they written for the film? The Mark of the Beast (talk) 07:59, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

Chicago White Sox TV play by play who called Buehrle's perfect game
I've already been to the affiliated wiki pages for this event, I just need a White Sox fan to verify for me that it's Ken Harrelson who says, following Dewayne Wise' 9th inning catch at the wall:

"Under the circumstances one of the greatest catches I have ever seen in 50 years in this game."

Thanks Wolfgangus (talk) 09:22, 3 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Assuming it was one of the local White Sox broadcasters, List of Chicago White Sox broadcasters may help you out here. If it was a TV broadcast, Ken Harrelson looks like a good guess.  -- Jayron  32  11:58, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Hawk was the play-by-play guy, but it could have been his sidekick, whoever that might have been at the time. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 12:29, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, it had to have been Harrelson then.Wolfgangus (talk) 09:12, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Maximising income for musicians
Not sure which desk this fits best. If I had x amount of money, what should I purchase so that a musician/band makes the most profit? Would this be legal downloads, CDs, t-shirts etc etc? If it makes a difference I'd be most interested in electronic dance music musicians (so downloads would probably be from Beatport). doom gaze  (talk)  17:17, 3 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Just to clarify, you are a customer, and want to ensure that the highest proportion of your purchase goes to the musicians, right ? StuRat (talk) 17:31, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Bingo. doom gaze   (talk)  17:38, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I work a little bit in a very roundabout way for part of the "music industry" (trust me, it is VERY roundabout) but I have had some discussions with people there and in other places, and your best option for supporting a musician directly with money is to buy a ticket to their shows. Roughly speaking, each part of the music industry takes the bulk of profit from a different sector.  Record labels take their money from album sales; while artists do make some cash on this, most of the profit goes to the labels themselves.  Some artists have taken to releasing music on their own, either under their own label, or completely sans traditional label; however they still don't make much money that way; since music needs to have distribution to sell well; even independent labels need a distributor, which eats away at the money going to the artist, or digital music needs a platform to sell it, which has roughly the same effect.  Buying an album or purchasing a song for download is nice, and will result in some small% of cash going to the artist, but it isn't the most profitable venture.  On the other hand, artists get to keep a LOT more of the money from concert revenues, specifically ticket sales (venues make almost no money on the ticket sales; most of that money goes to either the artist or the concert promoter; venues make their money on concessions, which is why they charge $10.00 for a bottle of beer) so your best option if you want to support your favorite act is to buy tickets to see them as often as possible.  -- Jayron  32  17:47, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Agreed: speaking purely as a music consumer (though I have some parallel professional experience with bookselling and with authors at conventions), lesser-promoted musicians at local venues often sell their own albums, etc, direct to the audience before or after the show - this can include both newer acts on the way up (personal examples: Show of Hands, The Spooky Men's Chorale and many others) and established but out-of-fashion/contract veterans (more pe's: Fairport Convention, Caravan, Julie Felix, etc). They will have either obtained their copies direct from their label at a good discount (or as 'remainders'), or may even be their own label, so they'll be getting first crack at the cash. At one Midge Ure solo gig, he even sold me a double cassette album partly recorded during that very gig! {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.197.66.52 (talk) 21:27, 3 August 2011 (UTC)


 * And, if there's an option to buy the tickets directly, rather than via Ticketmaster (or whatever they call themselves now), that will help even more, since TM won't get a cut. StuRat (talk) 18:45, 3 August 2011 (UTC)