Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Entertainment/2011 January 2

= January 2 =

What are some Disney box-office fail films and/or Disney films unknown to most people?
If you know any I would like them in a list the first is the oldest and the last is the newest IN THAT ORDER please. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.176.141.172 (talk) 03:06, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Box office bomb mentions Atlantis: The Lost Empire and Treasure Planet. There are plenty of obscure entries at List of Disney theatrical animated features. Notable is Song of the South, a 1946 movie never released on video in America because of scenes that would seem racist to today's viewers. -- Mwalcoff (talk) 03:36, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Song of the South was a popular film in its day, but most people have never seen it in its entirety, excepting perhaps small snippets, because Disney has never released it on home video due to some racially insensitive portrayals. It is most famous for producing the song Zip-a-Dee-Doo-Dah, an Oscar-winning song.  -- Jayron  32  03:38, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
 * It came out overseas, just not here in USA. APL (talk) 23:53, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Agreed; I saw it in London in the 60s when I was 8 or 9. Alansplodge (talk) 00:54, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Don't know if you'd call it a failure, but arristocats 2 hasn't been released, as far as i know they stopped production on it, curse disney for doing that. N.I.M. (talk) (redacted) 23:19, 2 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Fantasia has become very well-known and popular, but apparently was less so when it came out. According to the article, subsection on critical reception in the 1940s, "most sources cite the film as Disney's first great box-office failure, and commentators such as Leonard Maltin blame its initial failure on the public's unwillingness to accept Disney as a popularizer of classical music." The case of Alice in Wonderland is a bit similar. At first, when it was released, it was a disappointment at the box-office, but experienced an increase in popularity during the following decades. ---Sluzzelin  talk  23:31, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
 * After Pink Floyd became popular I suspect. Googlemeister (talk) 20:41, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
 * The Black Cauldron, adapted from the novel of the same name, was the most expensive animated feature ever produced up to that point, was darker than any previous animated Disney film, and was a commercial disaster. Not only did its US box office gross not even meet the film's budget, but it didn't spawn 1000 toys, towels, toothbrushes, and teakettles as Disney's big successes all do.  Comet Tuttle (talk) 19:32, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Not a single ride at Disneyland for it either. Googlemeister (talk) 20:42, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

TV question
Is it possible to get old local television schedules on the Internet? Is there an archive somewhere? --76.194.227.240 (talk) 05:38, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Should we assume that you're looking for US TV schedules? Dismas |(talk) 05:52, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Yes. --76.194.227.240 (talk) 06:27, 2 January 2011 (UTC)


 * There's this site which has some schedules. If nobody here can come up with anything better for you, an email to that site may get you what you're looking for.  Dismas |(talk) 06:52, 2 January 2011 (UTC)


 * My hometown paper carries/carried the daily television schedule as part of the entertainment section. Depending on if they (or the local library) have digitized the paper's back archive, you may be able to access the archives for the local newspaper in question, and find the television schedule there. -- 174.24.215.106 (talk) 17:28, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

I'm looking specifically for listings in the Los Angeles area. --99.163.181.211 (talk) 18:21, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Depends on how "old" you're talking about, of course. Are you talking last week? Or fifty years ago? If you're looking for something years back and you can find a local newspaper in the papers archived by Google, you might find what you're looking for. .    APL (talk) 23:51, 2 January 2011 (UTC)


 * For future reference, it would have helped us out if you would have provided more details about what you needed to begin with. If you'd have specified the location and time period to begin with, we could have provided you with an answer more quickly.  Also, sometimes explaining why you need the information can help us because we might be able to offer alternative solutions if we can't answer your question directly.  Dismas |(talk) 03:47, 3 January 2011 (UTC)