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= January 30 =

Hat Tricks In Cricket
My husband bowled his hat trick in the first 3 balls of the games and I was wondering if this has ever been done before. I know of the hat trick that the guy got his hat trick on the first 3 balls he bowled but was it the first 3 ball of the game? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.218.200.168 (talk) 08:10, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Congratulations! That's an almost unbelieveable achievement, but it's not completely unprecedented.  Chaminda Vaas, playing for Sri Lanka, bowled a hat-trick with the first three balls of a World Cup match against Bangladesh in February 2003.  This website calls Vaas' hat-trick unique, so perhaps we can pencil your husband in as the second cricketer to manage it. --Antiquary (talk) 12:53, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Hi Can you please tell me how I can add this to this web site? It would be great to have this on here if he is the second ever person to do this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.218.200.168 (talk) 06:40, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
 * First of all, the feat must have been recorded in a reliable source. With the best will in the world, Wikipedia could not possibly work if it was just a collection of individual claims without any sort of backup or evidence.  Secondly, most cricket writing is about first class cricket; there is obviously local writing about local games, but I'm not aware that all the stats on local cricket (and that's a huge amount of matches, far more than first class or test cricket) are compared in the one place.  There could well have been other people who scored hat tricks in the first 3 balls of the game in club cricket, but they can't be compared with similar stats from first class matches.  You don't say what level of the game your husband played/plays.  --   Jack of Oz   [your turn]  09:45, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
 * You might want to contact the Guinness Book of World Records to see if they will accept this feat. --TammyMoet (talk) 09:53, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Value of a Promotion of a 45 record
What is the value of a "Promotion" copy of a 45 record of Francis Albert Sinatra and Antonio Carlos Jobim "Change Partners"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.6.45.56 (talk) 23:05, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
 * The value of any record (or other collectible) depends heavily on the physical condition of the record and also of any associated items like the sleeve (whose complete absence may considerably reduce the value overall). Only you know these factors, and you need to be able to assess them according to the generally accepted standards of record collectors to find out how they will affect any notional value.
 * Rather than work through dialogue with us, you would be better advised to consult directly a specialist record collecting site, publication or dealership which will provide advice on assessing condition as well as - possibly - estimated values of the item(s) in question.
 * There are a number of such venues which could be found by googling: one such is the UK magazine Record Collector, which maintains (linked from the bottom of the article I just provided a link to) an online Rare Record Price Guide: this would be a good place to start. 87.81.230.195 (talk) 23:55, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I agree with the last comments. You need to bear in mind that mint copies of any record - the "values" often quoted - are typically up to 10 times higher than for records in merely "good" or "fair" condition.  Promo records do not necessarily have any greater value than commercially issued versions, unless they were never issued commercially.  The country of issue is also important - a picture sleeve version of a record issued in a small(er) country far away may well be of interest to collectors in, say, the UK or US.  You may be interested in the article on Record collecting.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 10:06, 31 January 2011 (UTC)