Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Entertainment/2011 July 15

= July 15 =

Can anyone list any actors born under 1923 that have upcoming movie roles to be released in the future?
Can anyone list any actors born under 1923 that have upcoming movie roles to be released in the future? Neptunekh2 (talk) 01:05, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Using WP:CATSCAN, I was able to find 97 articles that are in the categories of 1923 births, Actors, and Living people. 90 for 1922 births.  And 55 for 1921.  The results before that probably drop off pretty quickly.  It's a bit of work but if you have the time and the desire, you should be able to come up with your answer pretty quickly.  Dismas |(talk) 02:22, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Do you mean born in 1923, or before? If you mean before, then (from a recent question), Carla Laemmle was born in 1909 and has two upcoming films listed on IMDb. Warofdreams talk 16:55, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Smokin marijuana (what I wanna), Watching channel five
These; "Smokin marijuana [cnesored version, "what I wanna"], Watching channel five" are the opening lyrics to New York, New York, by The Dictators. Listen here. What group covered this song with radio play on rock stations around 1989-1992? μηδείς (talk) 03:40, 15 July 2011 (UTC)


 * According to this link it was covered by the Fleshtones. 75.155.138.12 (talk) 08:35, 15 July 2011 (UTC)


 * No, thanks, but I strongly doubt it, itmust have been some later band. Fleshtones are too early and there's no indication form YouTube that it's them.  It was a late 80's early 90's band, I am sure.  I remember listing to it as a hit on WSOU between 1989 and 1992 (probably 1991 at the latest). Surely some NJ or NY rocker form the era must remember. μηδείς (talk) 03:28, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Uptown Girl
I am confused by the Billy Joel song "Uptown Girl". I am assuming the song is referring to NYC. It seems to me that the girl he is singing about is rich and white, but I thought that uptown would be Harlem, which is an area that is known for being poor and predominantly black. Is he singing about a rich white girl in Harlem, or is uptown have a different meaning then I thought? Googlemeister (talk) 15:30, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
 * It's not set in any particular town or city. 'Uptown' in the song just means that she comes from a well-to-do area.  More importantly, the song is about Joel's relationship with the supermodel Christie Brinkley.  It was widely noted at the time that she was a tall, fabulously beautiful supermodel whereas he was a funny looking New Yorker.  The song acknowledges this discrepancy in a witty, self-mocking way. --Viennese Waltz 15:35, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Reinforced by the video of the song, which features the now-long-since-ex-Mrs. Joel. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 19:54, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
 * In New York City, "Uptown" and "Downtown" are more relatively defined. If the narrator of the song comes from a working-class neighborhood, say the Lower East Side, while the girl of his affection comes from Central Park West, then she is definately an "Uptown Girl".  In Manhattan, Uptown can mean "Harlem", but it can also mean "North of where I am now".  It only means Harlem because Harlem is the only place that is always "Uptown" of the rest of the island.  -- Jayron  32  15:41, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
 * From some locations, I downtown and uptown can be in the same direction, but I doubt they ever mean the same location (I am not sure.) In the case of the Joel song, "uptown" was not intended to refer to Harlem. 99.24.223.58 (talk) 21:00, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

DOOP ships in Futurama
So far I have only seen the Nimbus, captained by the moron, Brannigan. I haven't read the comics, but just in case, are there any other known DOOP ships? I am not counting the little green helicopters btw. If there is just the Nimbus, I'm of course not going to ask why. Also, in any part of the Futurama universe has the DOOP ever actually functioned as anything other than an arm of the Earth government? Sir William Matthew Flinders Petrie &#124; Say Shalom! 17:02, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
 * You can try researching the question at http://futurama.wikia.com/wiki/Futurama_Wiki. -- Jayron  32  17:15, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I can't see how the campaign against the Retiree People of the Assisted Living Nebula could have been on behalf of the Earth government, but I haven't seen that episode. 99.24.223.58 (talk) 23:28, 15 July 2011 (UTC)


 * I can't remember who it was that said that was his previous mission, I think it was Nixon though, and he seemed happy about it (or maybe that was the carpet-bombing of Eden 7). Sir William Matthew Flinders Petrie &#124; Say Shalom! 07:37, 16 July 2011 (UTC)


 * I asked there. 99.24.223.58 (talk) 23:46, 15 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Don't forget the Infosphere as well. They're both the Futurama Wiki afaik. :p Sir William Matthew Flinders Petrie &#124; Say Shalom! 16:10, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Awesome! If you look closely at the dock on the DOOP HQ space station you can see a variety of ships docked.  Maybe the episode that's from has a closer view. 99.24.223.58 (talk) 18:32, 17 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Futurama is not Star Trek, don't expect highly complex political situations in there. Even Nixon's head presidential campaign was surpassed in the plot by Bender's attemps to get his body back. But, in answer to the question, "Branigan begins again" does not involve Earth as a political factor. As for ships, there was a populated space battle to destroy the golden Death Stars at "Bender's Big Score". Perhaps Santa or the Robot mafia do not belong to DOOP, but surely the others do. Cambalachero (talk) 23:48, 15 July 2011 (UTC)


 * By DOOP ships I am referring to ships operated by the DOOP (such as the Nimbus), not privately-owned ships acting as warships that live on planets that are part of the DOOP. I'll rephrase it. Are there any other known DOOP warships (I remember that there are mining ships of course), not including those owned by characters that temporarily assume the role of warships during crises like the Scammer takeover and the Omicronian invasion of Earth (the one in Lrrreconcilable Differences). Sir William Matthew Flinders Petrie &#124; Say Shalom! 07:37, 16 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Star Trek has complex political situations? Dammit Jim! I'm a doctor yes, but not a spin doctor. Clarityfiend (talk) 02:46, 16 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Perhaps not in the original, but later series were more complex than that. Haven't you noticed the similarities of the Bajorans with the Middle East crisis? Cambalachero (talk) 16:02, 16 July 2011 (UTC)


 * I don't recall the depth of Star Trek and connections to the real world being part of the original question. :p Sir William Matthew Flinders Petrie &#124; Say Shalom! 16:10, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

The Cascades
Can you tell me what year they recorded "First love never dies" ? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.10.93.222 (talk) 17:03, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
 * According to www.allmusic.com: the song was probably recorded in 1963, but was officially unreleased until it came out as a bonus track on a "Greatest Hits" collection in 1998.  -- Jayron  32  17:20, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
 * That's effectively confirmed by singer John Gummoe's own website here - it was certainly recorded in 1963 or 64. Ghmyrtle (talk) 22:28, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

song identification
can any one help me identify these two songs?

the first, has the line "go your own way" repeated many times, often in the chorus

the second has the lines "don't, stop, thinking about tomorrow" and "yesterday's gone, yesterday's gone"

thanks! Dubious Status How's it going? 17:19, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry to be so blunt, but are you even trying to look this up before you come here to ask?!? It's like you are intentionally pulling our leg to see how simple it can get before we stop answering you.  Both songs are from Fleetwood Mac's album Rumours, which is one of the best selling musical albums in history, and the two songs are the best known songs from the album.  The first is titled "Go Your Own Way" and the second is titled "Don't Stop".  Many people here do geniunely enjoy working out hard-to-find songs, but even if you hadn't ever turned on a radio in the past 35 years, and had seriously NO IDEA about the provenance of these songs (entirely possible), if you had bothered to type either phrase into the Google search box OR into the Wikipedia search box, you would have found the answer much faster than it would take for one of us to come around and answer it.  Please, next time, try to work it out for yourself before asking here.  If you get genuinely stuck, come for help, but with this question it is so self-evident that you didn't even try to figure it out before asking.  -- Jayron  32  17:28, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Maybe the inquirer is a preeteen from Bejeezustan? WP:AGF. Not everyone remembers Clin Ton after all. μηδείς (talk) 03:33, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Actually, I accounted for that. As I said, and I quote, (bolded this time for emphasis): "even if you hadn't ever turned on a radio in the past 35 years, and had seriously NO IDEA about the provenance of these songs (entirely possible)".  The point was not that I necessarily expected him to have known the song title.  He probably didn't.  However, if you type the words "Go your own way" into Google, you get the right answer.  It's not the lack of prior knowledge that is the problem, its the total lack of effort in working it out for himself that is.  -- Jayron  32  16:40, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Wow, that google thing really does work. Is google available everywhere? μηδείς (talk) 19:57, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Certainly. Why do you think it's called "google"? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 20:05, 17 July 2011 (UTC)