Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Entertainment/2011 June 23

= June 23 =

WWE
Is WWE is an entertainment Program??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abrothers03 (talk • contribs) 07:16, 23 June 2011 (UTC)


 * There isn't a definitive answer to this. WWE programs says that WWE appears worldwide on both sports channels and entertainment channels, and it seems to have elements of both genres.  (TV programs are classified into genre for various purposes - e.g. in program guides, by which department of the TV station is responsible for them, by what channel they're on, by how they're packaged for advertisers - but there isn't a universal or national authority that decides.) --Colapeninsula (talk) 09:07, 23 June 2011 (UTC)


 * The answer is that it is "sports entertainment", which is how it markets itself. What that means is that the event is very athletically strenuous on the participants, but just about everything surrounding the match is scripted.  It is scripted in two ways; first the "story lines" that go on outside of the matches, including the characters, their backgrounds, and the way they interact is a scripted story.  Secondly, the matches themselves are heavily scripted.  The wrestlers may "ad lib" in certain areas of the match, but the outcome is predetermined, as are major events within the match (like when one wrestler hits the other with a chair, or whatever).  -- Jayron  32  12:37, 23 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Broadly speaking, even if it wasn't scripted, it would still be entertainment, as the purpose of the presentation is to entertain people. Besides, the 'e' in WWE used to stand for 'entertainment'.  Mingmingla (talk) 19:16, 23 June 2011 (UTC)


 * I'd think anyone involved in an actual sport (especially real wrestling) would be aghast to be categorized along with fake wrestling. Then again, many in the entertainment industry might be similarly annoyed, so perhaps "sports entertainment" is the best term. StuRat (talk) 20:09, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Or fake soccer? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 06:26, 24 June 2011 (UTC)


 * That's interesting. We've had many discussions here on the ref desks about where sports questions belong, and the general consensus has always been that they best belong on the Entertainment desk, because sports are, supposedly, inherently a form of entertainment.  Now, we're sanctioning that enforced redundancy we talked about recently on the Language desk, by suggesting "sports entertainment".  --   Jack of Oz   [your turn]  21:14, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
 * That's a qualifier, as opposed to other types of entertainment. Although ESPN originally stood for "Entertainment & Sports Programming Network". ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 06:28, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

How much might a current songwriter earn in residuals for a childrens song Like "its a Small World" of that type of repetitive nature freelance?
I do realize that that particular song was gifted, so perhaps " This is the Song that never ends" would be a better example? [email redacted] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.243.212.98 (talk) 07:37, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I haven't found an answer to your question as yet, but I have removed your email address. Any answer we do find, we'll put here.   --some jerk on the Internet    (talk)  12:49, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

Lyric from Jock-a-mo
I was wondering what one of the words for the last verse of James Crawford's song 'Jock-a-mo' is?.. It begins

"Oh iko, iko, Iko, iko, un day. I'm having my ??? on a Mardi Gras day. Jock-a mo fee na-né."

It sounds like he says 'having my part/party/fun on Mardi Gras day'

But I just can't figure it out and any help would be muchly appreciated... Thankyou 217.129.152.83 (talk) 12:10, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I can't find those lyrics in any of my searches, the best I can find is this document which describes at least three seperate versions of the song. The lyrics are usually some varient of "Hey now, hey now/iko iko anday/jockamo feena andan day/jockamo feenanday"  The third line doesn't contain any recognizable English as you indicate, which would seem to me that you maybe misheard it.  -- Jayron  32  12:33, 23 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Of course, we have an article, Iko Iko. Adam Bishop (talk) 13:10, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

Ok, the problem is there aren't any videos or clips floating around the internet of James Crawford singing the song or even any sites that properly display the lyrics to the original version.. The only place I found where I could listen to it was one of those internet radio sites.. I think it was grooveshark. There are a lot of covers of the song but the lyrics to Crawford's original version is the one I can't find.. Once again, thanks for any help 217.129.152.83 (talk) 18:24, 23 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Footnote 14 in the Iko Iko article has some interesting information and further links that might be useful, although I can't check them myself at this time. -- LarryMac  | Talk  18:50, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

Identify music in a Monty Python sketch
Hi, can anyone help me identify the music at 2:00 minutes? Thanks! ╟─ Treasury Tag ►  inspectorate  ─╢ 19:44, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Roving Report 2, by Jack Trombey (on whom we don't have an article). See  and .  Note that this information is in the comments on the YouTube video posted by the OP. :) Tevildo (talk) 20:44, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
 * PS - thanks for indirectly helping with _my_ question above. Tevildo (talk) 20:46, 23 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Trombey was a regular composer of stock music for De Wolfe Music (their search engine lists 499 tracks he wrote for them). You can usually tell stock music by its name - they usually have obvious, search-friendly names like "morning dew" or "approaching menace". -- Finlay McWalter ☻ Talk 21:39, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Surely you don't mean Approaching Menace by Neil Richardson? Alansplodge (talk) 21:46, 23 June 2011 (UTC)


 * I do indeed. A surprising amount of familiar stuff like this is stock music (aka production music). Before its use on Mastermind I imagine "Approaching Menace" featured in any number of attack-of-the-rubber-alien films and industrial training videos about the hazards of slippy floors. -- Finlay McWalter ☻ Talk 21:50, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Watchers of B-movies and the like start to recognize things. Adventures of Superman fans may recognize the underscores of these clips from Plan 9 from Outer Space as also being in some of the Superman episodes... from about 2:00 to 3:00 of this clip and from about 2:00 to 2:30 and 8:00 to 9:30 of this clip. Plan 9 is as sappy as a movie can be, but there's no question that the stock music "works" for it. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 00:50, 24 June 2011 (UTC)