Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Entertainment/2011 June 3

= June 3 =

Can anyone name this band?
I was listening to the IGN Girlfight podcast and one of the ladies mentioned a band that was once at a Sony E3 event. She called it "Freddie Goes To Camp" but that's not the band's name. Now I can vaguely remember that band. I can vaguely remember their music video. I can vaguely remember the song. I can remember not really liking any of it.

I can't remember the band's name either.

The band was from the early 00's. Male singer. Kinda goofy looking. The video might of had a Gulf Stream RV in it. They were a one hit wonder. "Hit" might even be too strong of a word. The name "Freddie Goes To Camp" does seem about right but I don't think any of the four words are right. It might of been 3 words. It's not Frankie Goes To Hollywood.

That's all I can remember.


 * Take a look at Camp Freddy. That might be the band. 10draftsdeep (talk) 16:40, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

Sci-fi with "realistic" FTL
Faster-than-light communication (or travel) is generally considered bogus because it would allow causality violations, e.g. time travel into the past. Lots of SF works allow FTL in their universes, sometimes even in so-called hard SF, but their characters never use their FTL drives to do time travel. In some cases e.g. Star Trek, FTL exists in the universe, and time travel also exists, but they are unrelated. The Enterprise uses its warp drive every week, but almost never does any time travel- when it does, it has nothing to do with the warp drive.

What are some examples of SF universes with FTL in which the FTL is used "realistically" to do time travel? Maybe the end of Superman (film) qualifies, but I was never sure what exactly happened there anyway. I'm looking for more "hard" SF examples. Staecker (talk) 12:04, 3 June 2011 (UTC)


 * I can't think of any. Consider how hard it would be to keep track of things (or the readers' interest) when just anybody could go back in time and alter history. Clarityfiend (talk) 22:02, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Every time-travel story needs to keep track of things. It could be as easy or hard as the author wants. Easy solution- only give one character the FTL drive. Staecker (talk) 00:40, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
 * No problem in a story, but in an ongoing fictional universe? Clarityfiend (talk) 01:16, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Doesn't that depend entirely on the proposed FTL technology? Perhaps an expert can enlighten us, but I'm not convinced that a user of a Alcubierre drive or a Wormhole would necessarily experience the effects you're imagining, which as I weakly understand them, are caused by traveling FTL through normal space, which isn't possible anyway.  APL (talk) 22:11, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
 * No I don't think all FTL would necessarily allow time travel. But it would be allowed in any universe with FTL drives that can be used arbitrarily, i.e. to travel at any time between any two points instantaneously. Staecker (talk) 00:40, 4 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Singularity Sky by Charles Stross deals with FTL that does involve time travel. There is a being from the future called "the Eschaton" which has given humanity a commandment of sorts not to violate causality.  Dismas |(talk) 01:23, 4 June 2011 (UTC)


 * It just occurred to me that in Thiotimoline to the Stars having to use time travel to balance out relativity effects and vice versa was a plot point. APL (talk) 08:21, 4 June 2011 (UTC)


 * I always thought Star Trek ships did travel through time when they went to warp speed, that's why they had the artificial 'stardates' instead of saying it was June or July 2346 or whatever. You might also look at the show Sliders, it seems compatible with a some theories of time travel that I've read about(IE It's possible to jump to other timelines but never back on your original one).129.128.216.107 (talk) 22:08, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
 * That is one explanation for stardates, but really they are just meaningless info to show that it is "the future" (especially in the original when they hadn't decided it took place in any particular year yet). But on the show, warp speed has no relation to time travel (except when they warp around a star for the "slingshot" version of time travel, however that is supposed to work). They even figure out ways for live, instantaneous communication from the other side of the galaxy. Adam Bishop (talk) 09:39, 5 June 2011 (UTC)


 * The anime series Gunbuster does utilize a more "realistic" version of FTL travel, in which those who travel FTL experience the passage of time at a much slower rate than those still on Earth. -- McDoob  AU  93  04:07, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Time travel in Star Trek does sometimes use the warp drive. In The Voyage Home ("The one with the whales") they travel back in time by slingshotting around the sun in order to travel at extremely high warp. --Tango (talk) 18:50, 5 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Robert Heinlein's Time enough for love has time travel, and, while I'm not quite sure in this, I seem to remember they use a faster than light spaceship for this purpose. &#x2013; b_jonas 20:20, 5 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Somehow, the notion of "realistic" time travel sounds about as likely as a "realistic" version of Plan 9 from Outer Space. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 00:11, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Check out special relativity. If you allow unrestricted FTL travel in your universe, and you follow special relativity realistically, you will get time travel for free. Allowing FTL without time travel is very unrealistic. Staecker (talk) 16:50, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Billy Pilgrim was able to dispense with the need for FTL to experience time travel, or at least thats how he remembers it.70.177.189.205 (talk) 01:52, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Maybe you could explain something in that book. It basically ends with him being shot, as I recall. But did that end his life permanently, or would he have jumped back to some previous point in time? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 02:14, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

The Legend of Zelda For Kids?
Is The Legend of Zelda series aimed at children in Japan. Most of The Legend of Zelda games are rated A all ages. The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess is the only game with a rating higher then a A and it was B 12 and up. Do Japanese children play the games?Kidspokemon (talk) 21:42, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I played the original Legend of Zelda at about age 10 or 11. I have no idea how the later games work.  The rating is based on the content of the game (violence, language, sex) and NOT on the playability, so it depends on what you mean of "aimed at children".  The Zelda series is also huge, and the ability of the children in question is highly variable.  If you have an 8 year old who is very good at Zelda-type games, they may have fun with it.  If it is rated "A - All Ages" it should be appropriate for them.  However, as a parent you should always play the game first, just to be sure.  Never trust the opinion of others as to what is appropriate for your own offspring.  -- Jayron  32  18:36, 5 June 2011 (UTC)