Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Entertainment/2011 March 24

= March 24 =

Paul Young (Sad Café)
Hi the wikipedia page Paul Young has a title Paul Young (Sad Café) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Young_(Sad_Caf%C3%A9)

It's true he was in Sad Café but he is more famous for being in Mike + The Mechanics, so shouldn't the title read: Paul Young (Sad Café, Mike + The Mechanics)?

This would provide better search results for people who are looking for this Paul Young and not the other Paul Young of "Wherever I lay my Hat" fame. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Young

This is very relevant at the moment because Paul Young of Mike + The Mechanics and Sad Café although dead has a new album titled "Paul Young Chronicles" which has been produced using material recovered from the musicians home studio, and the album features members of Genesis and 10cc.

Featured famous musicians: Paul Carrack: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Carrack Mike Rutherford: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Rutherford Eric Stewart http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Stewart Graham Gouldman: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graham_Gouldman

I hope the title can be changed as I feel this will help others who are searching for info relating to this musician and his new material. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.62.25.74 (talk) 12:45, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
 * That is not going to happen, sorry. Your suggestion for a title is too long and unwieldy.  Anyway, the main purpose of a title with some words in brackets like that one is to disambiguate it from other articles on people or things with the same name.  In this case we obviously need to specify which Paul Young this is, so as to disambiguate him from the "Wherever I Lay My Hat" bloke.  To do this, saying "Sad Café" is all that's required.  Besides, I would dispute your contention that your Paul Young is more famous for being in Mike & the Mechanics than Sad Café. --Viennese Waltz 13:15, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
 * See also Help desk - where I've suggested the user begins a move discussion, if they want.  Chzz  ► 13:23, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

SCTV and Canadian Air Farce
Everybody in Canada said SCTV and Canadian Air Farce were Canadian response to Saturday Night Live? Is this true? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.95.107.196 (talk) 14:34, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
 * From the articles: SNL began 1975, SCTV in 1976, RCAF on TV in 1980. Rmhermen (talk) 14:51, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Bear in mind that SNL was and still is produced by a Canadian, and starred many more over the years (Dan Aykroyd, Peter Aykroyd, Robin Duke, Phil Hartman, Norm Macdonald, Mark McKinney, Mike Myers, Tony Rosato, Paul Shaffer, and Martin Short). So while SNL isn't Canadian, it could be considered so honorarily.
 * With regards to Air Farce, though, it was more of a political satire show, not so much like SNL, though it still was sketch comedy. (And it was founded in 1970) Aaronite (talk) 15:36, 24 March 2011 (UTC)


 * SCTV didn't really start out as a response to SNL, but it shared the same origins (in Second City sketch comedy), and then when it was picked up by American television it was retooled to make it 90 minutes, and had musical guests, more like SNL (but still, not exactly like it). And as mentioned, Air Farce predates SNL, on the radio at least (where it was much funnier). Adam Bishop (talk) 19:02, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
 * SNL appears to have only had one original cast member who was associated with Second City (and he was from Second City Chicago, not the Toronto branch). Rmhermen (talk) 00:40, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

Title of a film
When I was a kid I saw a movie on TV in which a group of men are investigating an old mansion that is full of secret passages and hidden doors. One of them falls asleep on a bench and ends up in a circular dungeon where he is immobilized. Robotic arms pull off his shirt and trousers and a lion is released, which makes him extremely nervous (I think he gets out OK). I thought the title was I Love a Mystery, but the article on that movie doesn't match what I remember. The star of this movie was fairly prominent, such as Dean Martin or Cary Grant, but I don't see anything in their filmographies that match. I believe the film I am looking for was made in the 1960s. Hemoroid Agastordoff (talk) 18:00, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Alright, I have two guesses, neither of which I've watched (as far as I can remember) and neither of which fits all your criteria:
 * 13 Ghosts was filmed in 1960, takes place in a mansion, and one of the ghosts is a lion (along with a lion tamer, apparently). On this poster you can see the lion in the lower left corner. It doesn't star anyone like Dean Martin or Cary Grant though, the protagonists seem to be a family (not "a group of men") and I couldn't find anything about the robotic arm.
 * The Old Dark House was remade in 1963. Robert Morley is in it (not quite Dean Martin or Cary Grant). IMDb lists "lion" (and "hyena") among its keywords.
 * Not at all convinced either one of them is what you're looking for, but thought I'd post them anyway. ---Sluzzelin talk  22:45, 25 March 2011 (UTC)