Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Entertainment/2011 May 8

= May 8 =

James Bond Novels
What James Bond novels feature Honey Ryder or Pussy Galore? Thanks! Neptunekh2 (talk) 00:03, 8 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Those 2 links (Honey Ryder redirects to Honey Rider) tell you exactly what you want to know. Click them and see what happens.  --   Jack of Oz   [your turn]  01:11, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

which film was that?
Some seven or eight years back I watched a film on the French channel TV 5 Asia. Probably a French one. Ornella Muti was one of the main characters. She was having an affair. Her jealous husband follows her and lover on his moped while they ride to their rendezvous. One day the hubby gets into the lover's place and hides himself in the wardrobe and sees witnesses their love making. When they leave the flat he comes out of the hiding and pukes. He wants to jump into a river then he meets some acquaintance lady and has small talk with her. Which was that film?--Bluesdatum (talk) 01:31, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Have you looked through the list of films in the Ornella Muti article? 81.98.38.48 (talk) 15:33, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

What unaired episode of King of the Hill did Dale Gribble found out about Nancy and John Redcorn?
What unaired episode of King of the Hill did Dale Gribble found out about Nancy and John Redcorn? Neptunekh2 (talk) 01:41, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Do of the James Bond movies or books take place in Africa?
Do of the James Bond movies or books take place in Africa?
 * Roger Moore visits Egypt in The Spy Who Loved Me, and Timothy Dalton sees Tangier in The Living Daylights. That's about it for films, I think. Not a lot of supervillains call Africa home. Clarityfiend (talk) 02:13, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Part of Casino Royale takes place in Madagascar, and Nambutu is supposed to be in Africa. Adam Bishop (talk) 07:30, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
 * The climax of the unofficial James Bond film Never Say Never Again takes place in "Palmyra, Largo's base of operations in North Africa" (I quote from our page on the film). Not to be confused with the Syrian city Palmyra, it seems. --Antiquary (talk) 14:17, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
 * It's many years since I've seen Diamonds Are Forever (Bond should never be that overweight) but comparing our page with IMDb's it appears that the film has scenes in Egypt and South Africa. --Antiquary (talk) 15:03, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
 * The Egypt part is fleeting and the South Africa part is a plot point to explain how the diamonds are being obtained and smuggled. - X201 (talk) 14:21, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Name of jazz song
Hello,

Can someone please tell me the name of this song or its source ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wf0Jl4dz24k

I've been told it's from a sim city game. I'm not sure. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.141.137.92 (talk) 17:21, 8 May 2011 (UTC)


 * I've not heard that song before, bit is has a strong feel like some of Miles Davis/John Coltrane's collaborations, like something from Kind of Blue. It is NOT one of the songs on Kind of Blue, but I would check into songs from Miles Davis done between 1950-1960 or so (i.e. when he was still doing "cool jazz" and before he got heavy into the Jazz Fusion stuff like Bitches Brew).  I would focus on the years before and after Kind of Blue (say 1958-1960) given the similarity in sound to that album.  -- Jayron  32  20:10, 8 May 2011 (UTC)


 * The OP posted the same question on the french RD. That's where someone wrote it might be from SimCity 3000. Another pythia (that's their names around there) pointed out that it was Highway Blues from Marc Seales, bundled with Windows XP. 194.6.163.244 (talk) 10:26, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

I tried to post the answer here yesterday but the edit links were gone. Thank you all. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.141.72.154 (talk) 23:11, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

I don't want to be a celebrity, get me out of here
Normal people change careers all the time. Some normal people become celebrities. However, do celebrities ever go back to being a nobody through choice and not due to waning popularity, mental illness, retirement or death? And if so, what kind of careers do these ex-celebrities choose? I'm thinking of someone who gave up being an actor or singer for example, because they couldn't handle the pressure of fame. Astronaut (talk) 18:02, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Greta Garbo, Brigitte Bardot, Carla Lane, Syd Barrett. --TammyMoet (talk) 18:18, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Sly Stone is another one. Of course, withdrawing from the public eye doesn't make you a "nobody" again. -- Mwalcoff (talk) 20:02, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
 * You could add J.D. Salinger to that list, however as Mwalcoff notes, those are just celebrities which became recluses, which is what celebrities become when the don't want to be celebrities. That's not a normal option for people not living on the residual income from their prior careers.  A former celebrity who led relatively "normal" live as an average, working schlub might be Mark Fidrych, who in the mid 1970's was a huge star in American baseball, and after retirement worked as a farmer, truck driver and short order cook until his death in 2009.  -- Jayron  32  20:04, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Bill Berry would be an example. He used to be a rock star and is a farmer now.--Zoppp (talk) 20:13, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
 * T. E. Lawrence tried to escape his celebrity by changing his name to Shaw, although he stayed in the same business. Clarityfiend (talk) 20:21, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Not quite - Lawrence had been an archeologist turned British Army Lieutenant Colonel, but Aircraftsman Shaw was the lowest grade of mechanic in the RAF. Alansplodge (talk) 18:32, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Unless they actually change their names, ex-celebrities now doing mundane jobs probably hate being asked questions like "Didn't you used to be Annabel Giles?". --   Jack of Oz   [your turn]  20:45, 8 May 2011 (UTC)


 * A name known to some older editors is Graham Faulkner, who was and still is famed for playing the title role (St Francis of Assisi) in Franco Zeffirelli's Brother Sun, Sister Moon (1972). Apart from a handful of obscure and forgotten subsequent minor roles, he then retired and went into banking.  --   Jack of Oz   [your turn]  21:49, 8 May 2011 (UTC)


 * It depends on the person's level of celebrity. A minor celebrity can easily choose a non-celeb life. For example, the band Klaatu sold a lot of albums in Canada and even had a good run in the United States. They were on TV with a couple hits and had one of their songs turned into a huge hit by The Carpenters. But, as he put it, John Woloschuk decided he could be a great accountant or great musician, but not both. So, he dropped music and chose accounting. There are some Klaatu fans who still hunt him down, but he mostly lives a non-celeb life.
 * Compare that to a huge celebrity. I do not want to drop names, so I'll call this person just X, who is a cousin of mine. After he became a huge celebrity, he was at home during a family get-together. His mom told him that with all the relatives there, we didn't have enough drinks and plates. She told him to go down to the store to get more. He protested that he couldn't. He was too popular. He simply cannot go into a store to buy stuff anymore. Unless he becomes disfigured to the point that nobody recognizes him anymore, I cannot see him living a normal life. -- k a i n a w &trade; 22:04, 8 May 2011 (UTC).


 * Don't know if this fits the OP's definition but Harper Lee only published one book and then lived a quiet life out of the spotlight. Dismas |(talk) 00:13, 9 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Most authors are fairly anonymous in terms of their appearence. They're face isn't on TV every day, and most people wouldn't recognize Harper Lee if she was in the checkout aisle at the grocery store in front of them.  The same could probably not be said for, say, Lindsay Lohan.  -- Jayron  32  00:53, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
 * The OP didn't say anything about people recognizing them in the grocery store. But I agree with you.  The only authors I think I'd recognize on the street would be Cory Doctorow and Stephen King.  Dismas |(talk) 01:56, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Thank you all for your answers. Greta Garbo and John Woloschuk are probably the closest to the kind of person I was thinking of. Woloschuk's bandmate Terry Draper ia another possibility. The stories of Annabelle Giles and Mark Fidrych are interesting, though they seem to have been victims of circumstance rather then making a deliberate move into obscurity. Astronaut (talk) 06:35, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Michael Schoeffling, the star of 16 Candles, left acting to become a woodworker. 216.93.212.245 (talk) 17:40, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Tom Lehrer became a mathematician. --  Jack of Oz   [your turn]  22:01, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Mark Lester of Oliver fame. Kittybrewster  &#9742;  22:13, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Jonathan Knight from New Kids on the Block left the (ahem) band in 1994 and became a realtor. But they're back together now (as of 2008) so I'm not sure he counts. Staecker (talk) 23:03, 9 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Cartoonist Bill Watterson disappeared pretty effectively. APL (talk) 02:19, 10 May 2011 (UTC)


 * One thing I disagree with is when it was said that huge celebrities can't ever leave the limelight. They can, it just takes longer, as fame eventually fades.  Shirley Temple, for example, was a huge star as a child, then had a political career, but has now been retired for decades, and seems able to maintain her privacy. StuRat (talk) 09:28, 10 May 2011 (UTC)