Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Entertainment/2011 November 13

= November 13 =

interspersing of situations in cinema, what do you call it?
I would use a literary technique perfected by Llosa to describe it. You often see this in cinema too. Jaromil Jires's Joke (based on Kundera novel of the same title) is an obvious example. This clip for example. Any accepted term for this kind of intercuts? --117.253.199.65 (talk) 05:10, 13 November 2011 (UTC)


 * When you give us a 13.5 minute clip, you really need to provide time indexes to what you mean, so we don't have to watch the entire thing. I'm assuming you refer to the intercuts between band members playing and having a good time with prisoners at hard labor and having a bad time.  This would be juxtaposition, although we seem to lack an article on it's artistic usage.  Here's a definition and examples from the TV series Lost: . StuRat (talk) 04:37, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Something more than juxtaposition, it seems to me. The first shift happens in approximately the 10th second of the clip. Next in the 25th. The manner of transition also matters. From 2:00 you see the new recruits are being rushed through the hallway (flashback). At 2:10 the abrupt cut shows the audience coming out of the hall where the protagonist watched a baby parade. There should be some name like jump cut to describe the technique?  --117.253.191.26 (talk) 11:04, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Jump cut is something different. Smash cut seems to be what you are describing. --Elen of the Roads (talk) 12:06, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

Good historical film on imperialism in Africa, 19th century
I'm looking for a good, fairly modern historical (fiction) film on European imperialism in 19th century Africa. Something that is not totally offensive (not just a white man's burden tale). Any suggestions? I'm having trouble locating things which aren't South African productions of the apartheid era, which I'm more than a little suspicious of. --Mr.98 (talk) 20:09, 13 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Would Zulu do? The Mark of the Beast (talk) 20:49, 13 November 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm a little suspicious, to be honest. I haven't seen it. But the poster, the date, and the description makes it sound a little too propagandistic for the purposes I'm interested in. I want something that is balanced, not a "let's all root for the white guys" sort of affair. --Mr.98 (talk) 02:24, 14 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Zulu is from the white point of view, but many of the people involved were left-wing/revisionists (e.g. John Prebble) and it treats the Zulus quite respectfully while being critical of the English upper classes. --Colapeninsula (talk) 09:54, 14 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Hmm, well, maybe I'll check it out, then. --Mr.98 (talk) 17:01, 14 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Here's a list somebody has compiled. Clarityfiend (talk) 22:10, 13 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks, that's a useful place for me to look. --Mr.98 (talk) 02:24, 14 November 2011 (UTC)


 * While Burn! is set in a fictional Caribbean island populated by African slaves and colonial masters, not in Africa itself, it does a good job of portraying the various methods used to intimidate and control the natives. StuRat (talk) 04:17, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
 * There is the TV miniseries Shaka Zulu, long a favorite of independent UHF TV stations because it allowed them to show lots of naked boobs. -- Mwalcoff (talk) 23:12, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Werner Herzog's Cobra Verde? Staecker (talk) 23:51, 14 November 2011 (UTC)