Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Entertainment/2011 November 24

= November 24 =

Gladiator music
I recognized the music from the opening sequence of Gladiator when Russel Crowe is walking through the troops -- what else is it from?  DRosenbach  ( Talk 04:34, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Are you referring to this? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 04:43, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
 * This, best heard in the first minute and a half.  DRosenbach  ( Talk 07:21, 24 November 2011 (UTC)


 * As mentioned in the article on Gladiator_(soundtrack) (subsection "Musical impact"): "In June 2006, agents representing the estate of composer Gustav Holst (1874–1934) filed a lawsuit claiming that Zimmer plagiarized material from The Planets. Specifically, "The Battle" was believed to plagiarize Holst's "Mars, the bringer of war". There's a youtube clip juxtaposing the two works here.
 * The article also mentions that Zimmer's "The Battle" has found its way into other later film soundtracks as well. (see same subsection, unfortunately without references or examples). ---Sluzzelin talk  08:19, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

Who is this?
Is this woman an actress? Singer? Anyone remotely famous? Because I see this picture circulated a lot on Tumblr. 76.64.255.81 (talk) 12:00, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't recognize her and neither does TinEye. When I searched using that image, I got zero results.  Dismas |(talk) 13:44, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
 * You can see from the small print at bottom left that it's taken from Last Night's Party, a vaguely NSFW site with pictures of people enjoying themselves at parties. Given that and Dismas' Tineye point (I tried that as well), I think it's very unlikely that she's famous. --Viennese Waltz 14:45, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

About Carry on Sargeant
I have two questions about the film Carry On Sergeant the first one is can anyone tell me what are the medal/ award things (sorry, can't remember the correct name for them) that William Hartnell's character Sergeant Grimshawe is wearing? The second one is what year is the film set in? By that I mean, is the films story set in the late '50s because the film was made at that time or is it stated somewhere in the film that the film takes place earlier or later ? I'm asking because I have just watched the film with friends, one of whom did national service around that time and that was what we were talking about all the way through the film. 80.254.146.140 (talk) 12:44, 24 November 2011 (UTC)


 * It's a long time since I saw the film, but since nobody else has responded: (1) no idea. (2) The simplest way to tell is by looking at the vehicles in the film, but being a lighthearted film I doubt they went to the expense of hiring vintage vehicles and changing roadsigns etc. The film was based on an earlier play, which was based on a novel, but both of those were recent anyway, so I am pretty confident it was intended to be contemporary. In the UK, conscription into the army continued throughout the 1950s.--Shantavira|feed me 13:51, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

Okaydoke, thanks. 80.254.146.140 (talk) 15:57, 25 November 2011 (UTC)


 * I'll try to answer the first part of your question, based on this photo, but being monochrome makes it a bit difficult. In 1958, World War II had only been finished for 13 years. so a career sergeant would almost certainly have served in that conflict. The first two on the top row appear to be the Burma Star and the Africa Star. Below that is I suspect, the Long Service and Good Conduct Medal for 15 years service. Next is probably 1939-1945 Star (can't tell for certain, but he would have had one so it's the most likely candidate). The final light coloured one is a bit of a mystery - possibly it's the Korea Medal with one of the dark stripes not being visible. For your second question, I agree with Shantavira above; National Service didn't finish until 1960, so it's most likely that the film is supposed to be contemporary rather than historical. Alansplodge (talk) 15:59, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
 * This image which comes from the same film, shows him wearing a different set of medal ribbons, so he probably wore whatever the props department thought would look reasonable. Alansplodge (talk) 17:16, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
 * D'oh! The first image actually comes from The Army Game, a TV spin-off from Carry On Sergeant. I was misled by Google image search - I hate it when that happens. Alansplodge (talk) 17:26, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
 * OK, I've had a look at the Carry on Sergeant trailer on YouTube and can pick out the 1939-1945 Star, the Italy Star and the Korea Medal, plus a couple that I can't distinguish. They seem to be in the wrong order, so probably the product of the wardrobe department rather than an actual medal group. Alansplodge (talk) 00:01, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

Anita Bryant
WHAT YEAR ANITA BRYANT AND BOB HOPE PROFORMED IN THE PERFORMING ART CENTER.IN SELMA AL.36701
 * The OP asked the same question on another site, but they have not answered it yet. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 23:37, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
 * If you google [bob hope anita bryant selma] you can find quite a few general references, and maybe somewhere in there you'll be able to find the exact date. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 23:42, 24 November 2011 (UTC)


 * An AP news story from October 22, 1983 implies the show was to be Monday, October 24, 1983. It was a benefit for the Selma Performing Arts Centre. Vanessa Williams and Ricky Skaggs were also scheduled to appear.Edison (talk) 00:26, 26 November 2011 (UTC)