Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Entertainment/2011 September 13

= September 13 =

"Wild Chicago" theme
Quick question: what is the name of the musical piece that begins around 18 seconds in this video? I don't think it's an original work - I've heard something similar in other contexts. Zagal e jo^^^ 02:13, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I think that it is actually an original composition (composed by one Roger Adler according to the show's IMDb page and obviously influenced by surf instrumentals), but the main guitar riff is close enough to that of Apache (instrumental) (search for Apache Shadows on YouTube) to probably be considered a rip-off. Deor (talk) 02:56, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah, Apache is the one I'm thinking of. Thanks! Zagal e jo^^^ 03:30, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Name the film
From which film is this scene? --DinoXYZ (talk) 02:39, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * P.S. I Love You (film). The male is Gerard Butler, the female is Hilary Swank.  -- Jayron  32  03:37, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Bah! You beat me to it.  stupid work getting in the way of other stuff  I found it by Googling the line "I should get my shoes".  Dismas |(talk) 03:55, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * See, and I just went through the Wikipedia articles of Gerard Butler and Hilary Swank until I found a movie they were both in. -- Jayron  32  03:56, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * And I had no idea what his name was. Dismas |(talk) 05:00, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

"coaching from the sidelines" rule in tennis
I went to a local tennis tournament here in Melbourne Australia at Melbourne Park. Not the Australian open - merely the local players' circuit. there were only around maybe 4 people in the stands besides me, one of whom was a coach(it was somewhat eerie).

I know very little about tennis (though I enjoy watching it). And I didn't know either of the players from the proverbial bar of soap. But when I saw one of the players getting frustrated, I shouted a bit of moral encouragement. I was told to stop, or the player could risk being penalized for (me) "coaching from the sideline".

I was quite taken aback. When players like Rafael Nadal or other international stars play on the circuit, don't you get everyone in the crowd shouting their 2c of encouragement and (mostly useless) advice? Are they all (technically, at least) "illegal coaches"? Are local tournaments somehow different? Also at what point does shouting moral encouragement (rather than playing strategy advice) constitute "coaching" under the rule? 58.168.131.194 (talk) 05:47, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I have no idea, but the normal reason why people in the crowd at tennis matches are told to stop shouting is not because they are deemed to be coaching but because it is offputting to the players. --Viennese Waltz 07:32, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I've found various newspaper articles saying that offering tactical advice and coaching during a game is illegal (except in group events like the Davis Cup). Here's an article on the practice, which though banned is apparently widespread using covert signals.  And another article mentioning that Walter Bartoli was fined $2000 for coaching his daughter. According to this article, it's allowed in some WTA matches but not grand slam events. I can't find a clear explanation of why: perhaps either because it's a solo sport, or because it would interrupt play if players and coaches were constantly conversing. I believe that in golf there's a similar ban on talking to coaches, with the important exception that caddies can give advice. --Colapeninsula (talk) 10:58, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * The rule is pretty much as described by Colapeninsula above, but I suspect you were targetted by an over officious official. HiLo48 (talk) 11:16, 13 September 2011 (UTC)


 * ....though there would seem to be a world of difference between encouraging and coaching.--Shantavira|feed me 12:57, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Need name of the song
Can you please tell me the name of the song in this video, i;ve searched alot but couldn't find it the link is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwmOraKpQDQ, — Preceding unsigned comment added by 111.92.140.138 (talk) 06:44, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * It sounds like it is trying really hard to be the "O Fortuna" from Carl Orff's cantata Carmina Burana. It is a modern interpretation, and not identical to the original, but it sounds like a piece clearly influenced strongly by it.  -- Jayron  32  15:07, 13 September 2011 (UTC)


 * (I guess the style is like "O Fortuna", but I wouldn't call it a "modern interpretation" of it, the words and tune are completely different. The composer's website shows lots of movie and movie trailer work, so it's possible the song was composed to fit an epic-sounding style for a trailer.) --Bavi H (talk) 04:20, 14 September 2011 (UTC)


 * The song appears to be "Eternal Empire" by Veigar Margeirsson. I managed to transcribe the first three words in the song well enough for Google to suggest a correction (veritas domini peregrinus), which lead me to a post asking what the music was in the exact same video. --Bavi H (talk) 03:58, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

Cluedo-like show in Germany
I recently rekindled my interest in Cluedo (the game, the movie and the tv-show) and I remember a tv show in Germany that was similar and broadcast on ARD or ZDF in the late 90s or early 00s that I would like to identify. The audience was shown the events that lead up to a murder in a mansion and teams of famous people then got to question the suspects in the studio until the murderer was caught. I don't remember the regular Clue/Cluedo characters.

I remember *spoiler* that the murderer hid the crime by playing a recording with a remote control to fool everyone into thinking the murder hadn't yet taken place to give him or herself an alibi. I watched again the next week, but I never saw it again, so I suspect it was a one-off show.

Has anyone got a clue what I'm talking about? - 87.211.75.45 (talk) 18:41, 13 September 2011 (UTC)


 * It was Sat.1, and it was actually called Cluedo . Presented by Gundis Zámbó. German Wikipedia briefly mentions it under de:Cluedo. ---Sluzzelin talk  18:52, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Oops, sorry, no, I don't think it was teams of famous people asking the questions. ---Sluzzelin talk  18:57, 13 September 2011 (UTC)


 * ZDF did broadcast Ein mörderisches Spiel - Die Krimi-Show with Bodo Hauser and Monica Lierhaus in 2003, and they did seem to have celebrity guests asking questions (though the audience gets to guess as well). ---Sluzzelin  talk  19:11, 13 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks Sluzzelin, I think that's the one. - 87.211.75.45 (talk) 19:14, 13 September 2011 (UTC)