Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Entertainment/2012 April 12

= April 12 =

Whose lips in Rocky Horror Picture Show
Who is the lips in the opening sequence for The Rocky Horror Picture Show? The song is credited to Riff-Raff (Richard O'Brien) but I'm curious if those are his lips. RudolfRed (talk) 03:28, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
 * According to several sources, none strictly reliable (inluding an uncited note in Wikipedia's article on the actress), indicate that they belong to Patricia Quinn, who played Magenta in the film. See  and .  The last indicates that the DVD commentary makes it clear that the lips belong to Quinn.  -- Jayron  32  04:36, 12 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks! RudolfRed (talk) 19:41, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

UFC
WWE is not real.It is basically sports entertainment. But is UFC real or not?or is it just fake fighting. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.72.68.18 (talk) 17:06, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
 * UFC is unscripted, i.e. the results of the match are not predtermined. I guess that would qualify as real.  If you want to do more reading, the article Mixed martial arts or even combat sport are good places to start.  WWE and other "professional wrestling" leagues are basically simplistic dramas with a bit of coreography thrown in.  I have heard them called "ballet for men", which is accurate in the sense that like ballet dancers, the participants need to be very in shape, there is still significant opportunity for injury, however the thing is basically a coreographed drama.  In professional wrestling, this is called kayfabe, which is the ethos of remaining "in character". -- Jayron  32  19:07, 12 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Sources within MMA/UFC say not usually, though there may be occasions when fights are fixed. --Colapeninsula (talk) 19:09, 12 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Yes, but acknowledging the existance of match fixing only highlights that they aren't supposed to be. Other legitimate sports have their own match-fixing scandals, but that doesn't mean there isn't an expectation of the sport being an actual contest; merely that sometimes corruption gets into the system.  There's a difference between corruption in a legitimate sport, and WWE-style scripting.  Just one proof of the legitimacy of the sport is that sports books take bets on MMA matches.  If Vegas had any idea that MMA was scripted, it wouldn't do so.  Of course, gambling money is incentive to fix matches itself, but again, that a match can be fixed means there is a reason to do so.  There's no reason to "fix" a WWE rasslin' match because there's no money on it.  -- Jayron  32  21:12, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
 * All you have to do is watch a couple of fights and you'll quickly come to the conclusion it is not fixed. As further "evidence" WWE fighters are paid a set salary, while MMA figthers are paid for fighting and for actually winning, with the winner typically being paid twice as much as the loser. The amount of money they receive is determined by their "tier" as a fighter, with higher ranking fighters obviously attracting higher prices for fighting. That in it self is pretty good incentive for winning fights, especially since you really have to fight and win fairly consistently to make a decent living from fighting. Also while there do play up "rivalries" to generate anticipation for fights and there are a few colorful characters in MMA, generally there are no "alter egos" or "story lines" to go along with the MMA competition. If you are interested, The Smashing Machine is a fairly good documentary about pro fighter Mark Kerr which has a good look behind the curtain. Vespine (talk) 06:26, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Of course, the confusion may come from the fact that Ken Shamrock, one of MMA's first big stars, later left MMA for the world of professional rasslin. However, WWE stars have left other "legitimate" sports, like football players Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson and Bill Goldberg, and no one thinks football is fake because some football players later rassled.  But MMA is a perfectly legitimate (if someone controversial and violent) sport, unlike WWE-style rasslin.  -- Jayron  32  02:19, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

looking for a music vid
It's an 2000s Song), : It features an Man driving in a small town , in heavy snowstorm or rainstorm at night , In a 70s or 80s jeep , And there are these Train tracks , It's like he can change the future by doing something before ending into chrashing... In the first trip over these train tracks he does something (goes to a shop and more) and ends up with the train crashing into him... And he gets killed. But then again it shows him driving the same way through this town but now stopping to do something and going to a shop, He now nearly escapes but does get killed , Then In the end he stops because of some kid running into the road or something stopping him , but he goes to the Tracks again , but now he stops and does something and sees the train go past him and then it shows him driving away and then it fades into a black screen.  or something similar to this He always goes the same way and does everything the same exept for when he gets to the train? tracks, there he always does something else and ends up surviving the train.

Thanks :/ I'm not sure what genre this.. this maybe from 2004 - 2006. but could be older, also i think it was a rather sad song... 157.157.37.130 (talk) 19:38, 12 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Not sure, but The Butterfly Effect was a 2004 film, and this sounds similar. Perhaps it's a song from that (or one of the sequels) ? StuRat (talk) 02:55, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Keiynan Lonsdale on Dance Academy
Is there proof that Keiynan Lonsdale plays the character of Ollie on Dance Academy? imdb doesn't have the show listed on his page, and there is no actor for the character of Ollie on the imdb page for the show. I can't get to the ABC page to look for proof since I'm not in Australia. My original question was, what is Keiynan Lonsdale's background? Are there many black people in Australia? 69.62.243.48 (talk) 19:40, 12 April 2012 (UTC)


 * There are over half a million Indigenous Australians, but not all of them would be described as "black". There are also people from every other country on Earth living in Australia, including people exhibiting various shades of blackness (e.g. people from Africa, South Asia, the Caribbean, the Pacific; and African-Americans).  --  ♬  Jack of Oz  ♬  [your turn]  20:53, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Theater bookshop mangled play titles list
When I lived in NYC I was a frequent visitor to the Theater bookshop just North of Times Square. Behind the cash register they maintained a list of mangled play titles that customers had asked for over the years. The bookshop is no longer there and my web searches haven't turned up any similar lists. Was this list lost forever or does it exist somewhere on the web?

I can't recall many of the best entries on the list but some I do recall... The Iceman Always Rings Twice, Moon for the Misforgotten, Shakespeare's Ten Pests, The Skin of Ortiz   — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.96.164.169 (talk) 20:39, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
 * You might find the article Mondegreen an interesting read. -- Jayron  32  21:07, 12 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Not from that list (probably) but one I recall from those little fillers the New Yorker inserts at the end of articles (I believe it was from some New England newspaper): the Broadway musical Lame Is Rob. Deor (talk) 21:17, 12 April 2012 (UTC)


 * I prefer plays, so sign me up for "The Fiddler on a Hot Tin Roof" and "Little Orphan Annie Get Your Gun". StuRat (talk) 02:59, 16 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Slightly related: I remember a notable theatre person talking about when they worked in a ticket booking office, before their public career took off. Apparently various people who wanted to go to Sydney Symphony Orchestra concerts would ask for tickets to the "Sydney Sympathy Band".  :)  --  ♬  Jack of Oz  ♬  [your turn]  22:14, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Female vocalist query
Club cant handle me from flo Rida and David Guetta contains a female vocal, who is it. and it very nice and she doesnt get metchen, i was wondering if you could do some research and put it on wiki,

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Middletown007 (talk • contribs) 21:32, 12 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Deleted duplicate posting I take it you've read the article on the song, where it states that the vocalist is unknown. I've scoured the internet and there is no clear answer on who it is.  When it becomes know, I'm sure someone will add it. Mingmingla (talk) 02:58, 13 April 2012 (UTC)


 * We had this question in December 2010, where I suggested (for apparently absolutely no good reason) that it was Nicole Scherzinger. There were lots of other suggestions too. I guess no one really knows. Adam Bishop (talk) 04:36, 13 April 2012 (UTC)