Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Entertainment/2012 February 9

= February 9 =

Detroit Red Wings and Pistons
What is up with Detroit Red Wings and Pistons having two separate arenas instead of sharing one? Like most other cities with basketball and hockey franchises. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mybodymyself (talk • contribs) 00:21, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Apparently the owners of the two teams have different views on suburbs vs. downtown. The Pistons owner in the 70s didn't like having games downtown, so he moved them to the Silverdome, then built the Palace of Auburn Hills himself. The new owner bought the building with the team and is from Flint anyway. The owner of the Red Wings apparently is really into revitalizing the city of Detroit. -- Mwalcoff (talk) 02:49, 9 February 2012 (UTC)


 * There are more Red Wings fans in Windsor than Pistons fans (Hockey being more popular in Canada than Basketball) so it makes good business sense to have the Red Wings downtown. -- Jayron  32  04:26, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for your answer to my question here. Found all of this to be interesting. As for me I would prefer to see Pistons be in the same arena as Red Wings like most others in basketball and hockey.--Jessica A Bruno 17:50, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
 * This happens elsewhere sometimes. The Minnesota Timberwolves play in Minneapolis, and the Minnesota Wild play in St. Paul. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 20:12, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
 * From 2007-2010, the New Jersey Nets and New Jersey Devils played in different arenas; the Nets played in the Izod Center while the Devils played in the Prudential Center, though both arenas are capable of hosting both sports. They currently are both hosted at the Prudential Center until the Nets complete their move to Brooklyn.  The Miami Heat and the Florida Panthers both call the Miami area home, but the Heat play at American Airlines Arena and the Panthers play at the BankAtlantic Center.  The Phoenix Suns play in US Airways Center while the Phoenix Coyotes currently play in the Jobing.com Arena; the formerly both shared the US Airways Center, and the newer Jobing.com Arena is convertable for basketball (Indoor Lacross is played there), though the Suns still play at the US Airways center.  So, it isn't unique to Detroit that the two sports will have different arenas.  In some cities with both sports they share an arena, and in other cities they don't.  There are no grand, overriding principles one can learn from the differences; every situation is unique.  -- Jayron  32  23:31, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Humongous Entertainment: PC Vs. iOS
Hi All Wikipedians,

What happened to all the PC versions of all the distributed versions of the Humongous Entertainment games on the Atari website? I checked the kids section and there are only two iOS versions: Putt-Putt Saves the Zoo and Freddi Fish 3.

The following questions are:


 * 1) Were they in attempt to push them out the door?
 * 2) Did they lose their rights?
 * 3) Did they discontinue game support for ALL of them?

I checked the kids section again and the PC versions of all of them (including Putt-Putt Saves the Zoo, Freddi Fish 1, Putt-Putt Travels Through Time, Putt-Putt: Pep's Birthday Surprise, Pajama Sam 2, Pajama Sam 4, etc) are STILL not available anymore. I looked around Fry's Electronics yesterday, but STILL nothing. I looked at Target today, but STILL no Atari re-released games there.

Lastly, I have to address Atari directly... If you plan to follow through with this decision, then I ask that you bring ALL the marketed HE games and your own versions of some of your HE-releated games back. Surely, you can have no objection now that you still no longer care about the games, their users, and Atari customers. And yes, if that sounds a little far fetched, then consider that all the Humongous Entertainment games are the last hold outs for many of us to continue using Atari products at all. Without Humongous Entertainment, and without the PC versions of all of those games, there is no excitement, and there is nothing to hold us here. So, yes, consider your decision carefully. When you discontinue game support for all of the Humongous Entertainment games (including your own HE-releated ones), you do much more than to teach kids of being prevented from buying another HE game. By discontinuing support for Humongous Entertainment games (including your own HE-releated ones), you force us to seek out alternate pursuits, and believe me, it's not likely that people and children will invest years of time and money in a company and product that will pull the rug out from under us with not so much as a thought to what they do.

So please, try to tell me why. What happened to them?

Please Explain,

68.224.119.202 (talk) 03:25, 9 February 2012 (UTC)


 * I think you might get a faster answer if you ask them directly. They appear to have forums where you can post the question and someone should get back to you quickly.
 * -- McDoob AU  93  16:30, 9 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Okay, I sent Atari a complaint. I will have to see when I get a reply from them. Don't forget about this: HELP TO GET ALL THE HUMONGOUS ENTERTAINMENT GAMES BACK ON TRACK!!! 68.224.119.202 (talk) 18:46, 9 February 2012 (UTC)


 * I have waited for HOURS for a reply from Atari and they weren't paying attention to me. The message "Thank you for contacting us. This is an automated response confirming the receipt of your ticket. One of our agents will get back to you as soon as possible. For your records, the details of the ticket are listed below. When replying, please make sure that the ticket ID is kept in the subject line to ensure that your replies are tracked appropriately.

:::Subject: Humongous Entertainment PC Games No Longer Available :::Department: Community Forums :::Type: Question :::Status: Open


 * Kind regards,


 * Atari."


 * So, I can't get a faster answer from them. What I am continuing to ask is that I wanted to know what happened to all of those PC games. Now, I came to back to what your haven't answered: "How come Atari would take those games away, even when they're trying to force us to use that crappy iOS stuff?" It's like hell. Please tell me NOW (and immediately); I've got nothing. 68.224.119.202 (talk) 22:33, 9 February 2012 (UTC)


 * It seems that you did get a faster answer from them then you will ever get from this Reference Desk. If nobody here knows the answer to your question, then demanding an immediate answer isn't going to change that fact.  -- LarryMac  | Talk  18:33, 10 February 2012 (UTC)


 * I didn't get a faster answer yet. I guess they no longer have support for those games. Holy sh*t, what am I gonna do? 68.224.119.202 (talk) 22:58, 10 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Read a book? Go skydiving? Visit the library? Go to Starbucks? Hang out in an unfamiliar bar? Compliment a member of the opposite sex? Learn to whittle? Practice juggling? Comet Tuttle (talk) 00:14, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks To Cucumber Mike
Cucumber Mike, Thanks for your help ref to Bo Katzman. Daddytreefrog — Preceding unsigned comment added by Daddytreefrog (talk • contribs) 03:55, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
 * You are most welcome. For future reference, you can translate any website in the same way, using Google Translate. Just go to translate.google.com and enter the URL of the foreign website. It works best for major European languages (e.g. French, Spanish), and less well for other languages, but it's often useful enough to be able to give a sense of what the website is about. - Cucumber Mike (talk) 07:38, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Why? (television interview delay)
Why is it that—during a televised interview—there is a significant pause—usually a good four or five seconds—before the other person begins talking? 71.146.12.197 (talk) 05:06, 9 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Because people need to think about their answer to the question? -- Jayron  32  05:13, 9 February 2012 (UTC)


 * They would usually think for more than a few seconds, though—no? 71.146.12.197 (talk) 06:19, 9 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Most people say "Ummmmmmmm..." or "Welllll..." as they formulate a response, which lets others know they heard the question and will respond shortly. Some do not, however. StuRat (talk) 07:08, 10 February 2012 (UTC)


 * I changed your title to be useful. The reason is often satellite delay, which is doubled, since the person at the far end must wait to hear the question, then we must also wait for his answer to arrive.  It seems we lack an article on that delay, but it's caused both by the speed of light over the long distances the signal must travel (especially for  geosynchronous satellites, which are much further up) and by computer processing steps.  4-5 seconds seems rather extreme, though, I've only seen delays around 1 second. StuRat (talk) 06:02, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
 * What do you mean by “useful”? 71.146.12.197 (talk) 06:19, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
 * He means that "Why?" is not a useful title for the questions here. If all the questions were titled "Who?" or "What?" or "Question" then it would be both impossible to tell what the question was going to be about and it would be hard to find the question that you were looking for, if searching, by the title.  Think of it like this, in the newspaper the articles don't have headlines that simply read "Story" or "Headline".  They make an attempt to let you know what you're going to be reading about.  Dismas |(talk) 06:40, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I make the same point to my clients, most of whose resumés are headed with the word "Resumé" in big bold letters. I remind them that a book doesn't start with the word "Book" or "Novel", or a film with the word "Film" or "Movie" (although they do admittedly often end with "The End"), so why tell the readers of resumés that what they're reading is in fact a resumé?  They surely wouldn't mistake it for War and Peace. No, the very first thing they should be seeing is the name of the person.  That is what the document is all about. --   Jack of Oz   [your turn]  07:53, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Good advice. When I send my resume to someone as a Word document, I make sure the file name begins with my name and includes the title of the vacancy too. HiLo48 (talk) 08:54, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I've often seen resumes that will have the person's name as title, followed underneath by curriculum vitae or some such. I also heard some interesting advice from a Linked-In expert the other day - that the often-seen line of one's "objective" is often useless, since the "objective" of a resume is to find a job. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 12:17, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I couldn't agree more. It's a summary of your skills, qualifications, experience - what you have to offer.  Having short-term and long-term goals is a fine thing, but they shouldn't be appearing on a resume.  Telling them your ultimate goal is to run your own business and to have a fulfilling life or whatever is irrelevant if you're applying for a shelf stacking position.  Telling them you're hardworking, flexible, reliable and trustworthy is also a complete waste of space; those qualities would be taken for granted in anyone worth employing, plus you'd hardly be fessing up if you believed you were not those things.  Equally, people who advertise for staff who "must be reliable and trustworthy" might as well be asking for people who breathe only air.  I can understand they get frustrated when they hire people who let them down, and they want their replacement not to be like that; but spelling it out is not going to achieve that goal. --   Jack of Oz   [your turn]  18:55, 9 February 2012 (UTC)


 * The delay can also be observed in interviews where satellites are not involved. I presume this is because the transmission is done digitally, and the encoding and decoding of the signal takes some time (when we still had analogue TV signals where I live, it was noticeable that the digital version of a channel was a few seconds behind the analogue version). AndrewWTaylor (talk) 12:23, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Did two questions get mixed up here? Anyway, I think there is another reason for the perceived delays. When you're looking at someone next to you talking, it's easier to see when they want to stop than it is when you're far away. Sometimes, people being interviewed remotely can't even see the person who's asking them questions. The last thing you want to do is get into a situation where both people talk at the same time and get into exchanging comments like, "Oh, I'm sorry, I thought you were done talking." So you want to stop and wait and make sure the other person is done. It's certainly possible for people in remote locations to talk without perceived delays if they're not worried about talking at the same time as someone else, as in Around the Horn. -- Mwalcoff (talk) 23:19, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I was perplexed there until I realised you didn't mean Round the Horne! {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.197.66.161 (talk) 00:36, 10 February 2012 (UTC)