Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Entertainment/2012 March 23

= March 23 =

Knight Rider franchise
Can there be a page with all incarnations of "Knight Rider" on it? This would include Knight Rider (1982 TV series), the Knight Rider 2000 movie, the Knight Rider 2010 movie, "Team Knight Rider", Knight Rider (2008 TV series), books, video games, etc., etc, etc. This could be a portal, as well. Allen (talk) 03:09, 23 March 2012 (UTC)


 * I don't necessarily think there would be anything wrong with a Knight Rider (franchise) article, provided everything's cited, of course. I say be bold and have at it. -- McDoob  AU  93  03:18, 23 March 2012 (UTC)


 * What would this have which isn't already on the Knight Rider disambiguation page (which has links to each article) ? StuRat (talk) 03:34, 23 March 2012 (UTC)


 * I think it should be in the general form of the Star Trek page. What do you think? Allen (talk) 11:05, 23 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Well, the various Star Trek movies and series have lots of interactions between them, like the movie Star Trek Generations which combined some members of the cast from the original series with those of Star Trek: The Next Generation. If the various Knight Rider manifestations have the same level of interaction, then perhaps yes.  If each is it's own unique incarnation, then I'd say no.  StuRat (talk) 18:56, 23 March 2012 (UTC)


 * I started the Knight Rider (franchise) page. However, the page needs more work. If some people could help me with it, that would be great. Thanks! Allen (talk) 19:06, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Jean Stapleton on Archie Bunker's Place
I read recently that Stapleton appeared on six episodes of the first season before leaving the series for good. I count "Edith Gets Hired", "Edith vs. the Energy Crisis", "Thanksgiving Reunion" and "The Shabbat Dinner". That makes four, or counting "Thanksgiving Reunion, Part 1 and Part 2" as separate episodes, five. Am I missing any, or did the article get it wrong? Joefromrandb (talk) 04:57, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
 * IMDB argrees with your count. RudolfRed (talk) 05:06, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Ray Davies (Kinks)
I actually feel a little uneasy posting this here, but here goes. I've just seen footage of Ray Davies singing in 1968, and he seemed to have a trachaeostomy scar at his throat. I've had a look at his website and our page here, and can't find any reference to him having had an accident when younger. Any ideas? --TammyMoet (talk) 14:26, 23 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Why would this make you uneasy ? StuRat (talk) 18:40, 23 March 2012 (UTC)


 * I found this question and answer session with him :


 * "Is it true Waterloo Sunset is inspired by your time as a child in St Thomas' Hospital overlooking Waterloo?" - Jon Barrow, Bristol


 * "Yeah, I was in there for a while. I nearly died. I had a tracheotomy and the balloon burst. I couldn't speak for days and the nurses would wheel me out onto the balcony to watch the Thames..." - Ray Davies. StuRat (talk) 18:46, 23 March 2012 (UTC)


 * BTW, my brother had thyroid cancer, and the scar is sometimes visible, sometimes not, depending on his tan, etc. StuRat (talk) 18:47, 23 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for all your replies. I felt uneasy as it seemed so personal. Great sleuthing Stu! As an aside, my mom had her thyroid removed because of thyrotoxicosis and her scar was always visible. --TammyMoet (talk) 19:43, 23 March 2012 (UTC)


 * You're welcome. I guess we can mark this resolved now. StuRat (talk) 20:43, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

Memory game
There was a board game that made the players use memory. It had a grid of turned pieces, with images at the other sides, a pair of each one. Each player turned two pieces in his turn, if they were different they turned them again, and if they were the same he took them. The point of the game was to remember the location of the pieces as they were turned, by either player, so to find the pairs. Does someone remember the name of this game? Cambalachero (talk) 15:09, 23 March 2012 (UTC)


 * If it's the same one that I remember from my childhood, it was simply called "Memory". Dismas |(talk) 15:17, 23 March 2012 (UTC)


 * It might also have been Concentration, as in this example. Our article gives some other names for similar games:  Pelmanism, Shinkei-suijaku, Pexeso. or Pairs.  I don't know if the game has been produced commercially under any of those names, though, as it has with the Concentration and Memory names.  John M Baker (talk) 15:26, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

There was a popular version in the 1960s-70s called Husker Du (not the band!)This site has images that may jog your memory. Catrionak (talk) 16:29, 23 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Incidentally, you can play this with a normal deck of cards. Just shuffle them and place them face-side down, then try to match cards of the same color and denomination (like red jacks).  This gives you 26 pairs (27 pairs with the jokers).  If this is too challenging for the kiddies, you can ignore color and match any cards of the same denomination.  If this is still too challenging, you can instead say that any cards of the same suit match, or even just the same color. StuRat (talk) 18:37, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

What happened at the end of the last episode ever of Mister Ed?
According to this, in episode 143, the last, "Wilbur pleads with Ed to stick to being a horse, especially when Ed wants to go to college to become a Doctor." Well, did the series end with the idea that Ed went on to college (would be funny) or in the end did Ed not do it and the implication is that he just went on living in Wilbur's barn? 20.137.18.53 (talk) 17:21, 23 March 2012 (UTC)


 * IMDB has info on the last episode here: . The summary says "Mister Ed goes to school so he can become a veterinarian".  Unfortunately, it looks like only the first two seasons are currently available as streaming, and this was season 6, so we will have to trust the summary that he does, indeed, go off to college, or wait until it reruns on TV to verify this fact for ourselves. StuRat (talk) 17:47, 23 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Or hope that some human who watched the episode live and remembers it comes across this question (one in a million, proverbially speaking, I know). 20.137.18.53 (talk) 17:54, 23 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Here's the last few lines of the episode, which seems to support the idea that he went into practice as a vet: . Incidentally, if you like Mister Ed, you might also like the Francis the Talking Mule series of movies, on which it was based. StuRat (talk) 18:03, 23 March 2012 (UTC)


 * I just found it on YouTube, watching it now: (the sounds seems to be out of synchronization with the video). StuRat (talk) 18:08, 23 March 2012 (UTC)


 * OK, just finished. The info I gave previously is correct, although Ed "went to college" by listening in at the window of the lecture hall, so nobody but Wilbur knew he could talk, even at the end.  Incidentally, there's no indication that this was the series finale, so they may not have known this when it was filmed. StuRat (talk) 18:30, 23 March 2012 (UTC)