Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Entertainment/2012 May 20

= May 20 =

Seeking a "brothers" band
Hi. I was listening to a rerun of American Top 40 today; I don't know what year it was from, but doubtless from the 1970s. Among the songs on the roster was one by a band called the "[Something] Brothers", which consisted, Kasem (the DJ) said, of two brothers (with the surname [Something]). One of their earlier songs (not the one he played) had been covered more than a hundred times over the years, and had made them loads of money. The song he played though, was their own (not a cover). I'm seeking their last name; alas, all I remember of it is that it ended in a vowel sound (probably a non-silent e; the name Anende sounds about right (but isn't right)). Any ideas? (I know this isn't much to go on.)&mdash;msh210 &#x2120; 20:00, 20 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Allman Brothers ? StuRat (talk) 20:06, 20 May 2012 (UTC)


 * The Everly Brothers? The Doobie Brothers? The Isley Brothers (lots of 'brothers' bands in the 70s...) --Onorem♠Dil 20:12, 20 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Nope, but thanks for trying. It was none of those. I should mention also that the show I heard today aired on KZQZ-AM (in case that helps anyone figure out what year it was from) and that I think Kasem said the earlier song (the one covered so many times) had been from 1950s (but I'm not sure).&mdash;msh210 &#x2120; 20:15, 20 May 2012 (UTC)


 * I thought I had it with Isley...Shout was much covered and came out in 59. I'll keep looking. --Onorem♠Dil 20:28, 20 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Whoever they are, they're not listed as "[Something] Brothers" at Category:Sibling musical duos.&mdash;msh210 &#x2120; 20:31, 20 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Lots of "Brothers" weren't, e.g. The Righteous Brothers and The Walker Brothers. Clarityfiend (talk) 21:17, 20 May 2012 (UTC)


 * But he said these were brothers, which those two (I think) were not.&mdash;msh210 &#x2120; 21:21, 20 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Oh, I've remembered something else. Whatever song Kasem played (i.e., not the heavily covered one from the '50s) had a long title, long enough to make me wonder if it had parentheses in it.&mdash;msh210 &#x2120; 20:44, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Alessi Brothers? Oh Lori was quite big here in the UK in about 1977 or 1978. Britmax (talk) 21:53, 20 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks. The name sounds right, but the dates don't (they were too late), and they don't seem to have such a heavily covered song.&mdash;msh210 &#x2120; 21:55, 20 May 2012 (UTC)


 * The Bellamy Brothers were real-life siblings; they released "If I Said You Had a Beautiful Body Would You Hold It Against Me", which is long title. But their dates don't seem to match your parameters.  --  ♬  Jack of Oz  ♬  [your turn]  03:15, 21 May 2012 (UTC)


 * From what I can tell through various searches, there are two AT40 programs featuring Casey Kasem that are being broadcast - reruns of shows from the 70s and reruns of shows from the 80s. This website list the songs played on each.  For this past weekend, the only "brothers" act appears on the 70s playlist, the Addrisi Brothers, who our article tells us wrote "Never My Love", which has been covered dozens of times and "was the second most-played song on radio and television of the 20th century." -- LarryMac  | Talk  13:08, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Although the song title in that link (now corrected, incidentally) is just "Slow Dancin'", according to allmusic.com the full title is "Slow Dancin' Don't Turn Me On", which is not particularly long, but to my ears sounds like it could be partially parenthetical. Their other minor hit of the early 70's was "We've Got to Get it on Again".  You can find performances of both songs on YouTube.  -- LarryMac  | Talk  21:00, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much!! Yes, "Never My Love" was the song Kasem mentioned (he said it'd been covered more than a hundred times, I believe), and "Slow Dancin' Don't Turn Me On" was indeed the song I heard (great song, incidentally, and one I'd never AFAIK heard before).&mdash;msh210 &#x2120; 03:55, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Incidentally, the still shown at the 50-second mark in this YouTube video includes the title "SLOW DANCIN' (DON'T TURN ME ON)" (sic, with parentheses).&mdash;msh210 &#x2120; 04:06, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I've moved them out of Category:Musical duos and into the sub-cat Category:Sibling musical duos. --  ♬  Jack of Oz  ♬  [your turn]  19:36, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

Georges Méliès and the Star Films catalogue
Many of the films created by the legendary French filmmaker Georges Méliès have a number in something called a Star Films catalogue. I know that Star Films was Melies' film studio, and that Playing Cards, which is listed as number 1 in the catalogue - See here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IKvSErVidQ - was apparently Melies' first film. This leads me to believe that the order of the Star Films catalogue denotes the release order of Melies' films, however I do not know this for sure. One point that confuses me is that some films have multiple numbers in the Star Films Catalogue. For example The Haunted Castle is number 78-80. If the number denotes the order of release, then it wouldn't make any sense for The Haunted Castle to be the 78th, 79th, and 80th film to be released. Its only one film! Can anyone confirm what the order of films in the Star Films catalogue means?--Jpcase (talk) 20:43, 20 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Star Film (in English) was the name of Méliès's production company. The catalogue is simply the list of films he produced in his studios, reconstituted by historians from various written sources after the fact (many of the actual films have been lost); there was never an actual publication called the "Star Film Catalogue", with numbered items. The numbers are an attempt to give some chronological order to his vast production. It seems that the "Haunted Castle" (aka "The Devil's Castle") has three numbers because it's in three 20-metre reels, rather than the usual one reel. In the on-line list here, all films on more than one reel have multiple numbers. --Xuxl (talk) 10:34, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for responding! I was worried that my question was too obscure for anyone to answer. So just to be clear; you are saying that when the Star Films catalogue was created, an attempt was made to order the films as closely as possible to their release order, but that the ordering probably isn't exact?-Jpcase (talk) 15:21, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Exactly. Let's not forget that the whole cinema business was very different in those days, more akin to producing comedy sketches for county fairs than to today's studio blockbusters, so there is scant documentation available on many of the lost films. --Xuxl (talk) 07:38, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks so much for your help! Are there any reliable references that explain all of this? I would love to include this information on the Wikipedia page Georges Méliès filmography--Jpcase (talk) 00:28, 26 May 2012 (UTC)