Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Entertainment/2012 May 7

= May 7 =

Idenidy music
from Youtube video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&feature=player_embedded&v=JcWTSeqS67s thanks Fsdopv (talk) 00:54, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
 * It's the orchestral version of "La Valse d'Amélie" from the soundtrack to Amélie – it literally means "Amélie's Waltz". matt (talk) 12:31, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Cost of damages in "Before He Cheats"
Almost every time I hear Carrie Underwood's "Before He Cheats," I wonder about the extent of damage Carrie claims to have inflicted on her ex's truck. I certainly think no law enforcement would overlook this act of major vandalism simply because the man was unfaithful to her. Now obviously, repair rates are going to depend on locale, but let's assume this happens in an average American town, probably a rural one. So here are the damages to account for:
 * "The side" of the truck has been keyed; while the extent of this damage isn't apparently clear, let's assume by the tone of the song that it's pretty extensive
 * Carrie's named carved into "his leather seat"; it looks like we're just dealing with one seat here, probably in need of major or total reupholstering
 * "Both headlights" are broken; this seems like the least of the man's worries
 * "All four tires" have been slashed; these will probably need to be replaced

The questions:
 * 1) How much will the repair of the truck cost? You can give answers for very basic repairs or total restoration of the damage Carrie inflicted.
 * 2) Will insurance cover the damage? Will the man have to file a police report and/or sue to make Carrie pay the cost of repairs?
 * 3) If taken to court, would Carrie have any case with an affirmative defense? Assume she can't plead not guilty, as the song is a rather comprehensive confession. --BDD (talk) 16:36, 7 May 2012 (UTC)


 * 1) Cost: Replacing 4 typical tires is around US$500. Two headlights is maybe US$100.  The leather seat I'm not as sure about.  If you could find one in a junkyard and just use the leather from that, then maybe US$100.  The keying is the big question.  If all that is damaged was the paint, and it doesn't need to look perfect, then maybe some touch up paint and a good polish would be good enough, for maybe US$100.  If, on the other hand, the sheet metal is actually damaged, then that would be more expensive to fix.  So, we seem to be looking at the neighborhood of US$1000 damage.


 * 2) Insurance: Depending on the coverage, vandalism may or may not be covered. If so, the insurance company could then sue the vandal for recovery, and the owner could sue for the deductible (the portion they paid).


 * 3) Legal defense: No, adultery is not a legal defense for vandalism. If she could be proven to be the culprit, or admits to it, she would be held both criminally responsible ("Willful destruction of property") and civilly (financially) responsible.  I've often thought that movies, TV shows, and songs which depict such vandalism do the world a disservice by not showing the aftermath.  That is, the vandal will now have a criminal record and suffer the rest of their life as a result. (Who would want to hire someone who destroys property when they get mad ?  The company would have to worry about what would happen if they ever fired her).  StuRat (talk) 16:56, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Owner of John Lennon's "Working Class Hero"?
I am searching who owns the lyrics/rights to John Lennon's "Working Class Hero"? The company I work for is writing a book and would like to use the lyrics to the song in the book. We would like to locate the owner to ask premission and what they need from us to complete this process. Your help would be greatly appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.102.146.194 (talk) 18:21, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I could be wrong, but I believe that the song rights are still owned by the estate of John Lennon, which is managed by his widow, Yoko Ono. You should contact whoever her agent/management is to negotiate that sort of thing.  -- Jayron  32  18:26, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
 * This article suggests that, specifically, the copyright to the tracks from Plastic Ono Band (John Lennon album) belong to an entity called Lenono Music - a company set up by Lennon and Ono to manage their musical rights. You may also be interested in this article (registration is not required, despite what the popup says - you can just close it) detailing the trials and tribulations of attempting to use Lennon's music in an art installation. - Cucumber Mike (talk) 21:00, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Talk to EMI; they appear to handle permissions for Lenono. --jpgordon:==( o ) 13:55, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Song with an "Indigenous music" style and a dramatic mood
I heard on the radio a song with an "indigenous music" sort of style, only that the lyrics were in some indigenous/aboriginal language, and the radio commentator/operator (the guy that sometimes says the names of the songs before and after they play along with the artist's name) did not mention the name of the song.

It sounded familiar, and I'm guessing it must be a pretty well known song. There were many voices singing all at once. The mood was pretty dramatic, made me think of an "indigenous uprising" or something like that. Reminded me a bit of the film Avatar. Sorry for not being very specefic. The thing's that there's nothing else I can add about the song. Thanks in advance, --201.253.84.36 (talk) 19:53, 7 May 2012 (UTC)


 * I guess the first question is 'indigenous to where'? I notice you're in Argentina - are we looking for Argentine Amerindian music, or something else? - Cucumber Mike (talk) 20:50, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
 * The radio station on which I heard it usually plays western pop music, that is, pretty well known songs, usually pop, usually relaxing songs, usually from American (US) singers, usually in english, so this "indigenous music song" isn't necesarilly from Argentine aborigins because this radio is not a radio that plays traditional, local music, but rather mainstream pop/mainstream music from the western world.


 * So the truth is I don't know; it could be indigenous music pretty much anywhere from South America and Australia to the United States. Considering it again, the song reminds not only of the film Avatar, but also of the film The Mission, starring Robert De Niro, which is about the Jesuit's interaction with native americans in the northern Argentine province of Misiones, which is adjacent to Brazil. However, the mood of the song is somewhat less "joyfull" and more "dramatic" than the songs Ennio Morricone composed for the film, such as "On Earth As It Is In Heaven" and "Vita Nostra", which are the most emblematic. Believe me, I've heard this song already, it must be a relatively well-known song within the "ambit" of "indigenous music". Thanks for helping :) 201.253.84.36 (talk) 02:24, 9 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Did you make a note of when you heard it, and on what station? Many radio stations put their playlists on their website so that you can ask "What was that intriguing song I heard Monday at 3:38?". —Tamfang (talk) 18:31, 10 May 2012 (UTC)