Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Entertainment/2013 August 13

= August 13 =

Minecraft 1.7 release info, and a jeb tweet?
Hi!

My friend claims he saw something in a tweet by Jeb that they were planning to wait a while before releasing Minecraft 1.7... somewhere around 5 months, though no specific date being mentioned.

I looked for this in jeb's tweets but it doesn't seem to be there. Does anyone know a rough release time and an official link that confirms this? I am NOT looking for a specific release date, just general timeline of how long from now, as it is important to some decisions i will make on a server.

Thanks! 216.173.145.47 (talk) 00:17, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Looking for a music video
I remember this music video from sometime from 1995 - 2006. It was about a guy.. driving his car.. in a town. He stops at a cafe and then continues. it was either raining or snowing. it was night.. He continues and something goes in his way, a ball or a cat or something and he escapes it and continues... then there are railroads and he continues and gets hit by the train. then it repeats!!! He is driving.. stops at the cafe.. stops for a longer time or something... then the other thing happens again.. something goes in his way.. he slows down or something. Then continues and again gets hit by the train.... then the last time... He drops something in the car? (i think) and then drives to the cafe.. stops a longer time there. He drives on and sees the thing / person / animal and stops!!! and then passes on... just to stop for the train. and then thinking something before going on.... It's just so sad... please help me find it! It happened in a rainy night/stormy night/ snowy night .. it was American. and it was pretty modern 1990s - 2000s.

He was driving an old american truck/jeep. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.30.205.162 (talk) 01:33, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Since when can pro wrestling titles not change hands on a disqualification?
There's a longstanding rule in pro wrestling that if a champion loses a match by countout or disqualification, he keeps his belt. As champ Ric Flair often said, "To be the man, you've got to beat the man!" But this rule goes back before Flair's day. I've seen it enforced in mid-sixties matches, and it seemed well-established by then.

I'm a wrestling geek, so should know the answer, but I'm not good at Googling complex questions. Or, Google (and Ixquick) is not very good at answering them and unhelpfully "suggests" words. If I go for exact phrases, I'm not quite sure what they should be. Can someone with a better grasp on querying help? InedibleHulk (talk) 19:57, 13 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Nevermind, got it. The key word was "precedent". Happened after Leo Nomellini vs Lou Thesz, March 22, 1955, Cow Palace, San Francisco. InedibleHulk (talk) 20:16, 13 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Since when? Since the scriptwriters decided that would be the case. HiLo48 (talk) 22:26, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
 * This may surprise you, but most people who watch wrestling actually know it is scripted. That apparently does not impede their enjoyment any more than theater being scripted makes it less valid than improv. So you don't need to inform fans of wrestling that their entertainment is scripted whenever the subject comes up - they know already Effovex (talk) 01:04, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I suspect HiLo48 already knew that. I think HiLo was only pointing out that given that it's a scripted performance, they can script whatever they want.  I doubt there was any suggestion that you or any other fans didn't know it was scripted. Mingmingla (talk) 04:02, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Then why such a dumb question? The scriptwriters can make anything happen. Rules are just as much fiction as the rest of the story lines. HiLo48 (talk) 02:20, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
 * How is the question dumb? Aren't people allowed to ask questions about fictional universes on the entertainment board? Imagine this: Tamfang: "In Todo Sobre Mi Madre, why are there seemingly irrelevant mentions of Argentina?" HiLo48: "Because the scriptwriters decided that would be the case". How is that helping anyone? Even had InedibleHulk not already answered his own question, answering what is as useful as "They changed the rules whenever they changed the rules" is not contributing; turning it into a jab at wresting by "pointing out" that wrestling is fake is being purposefully insulting. There was no point whatsoever in commenting except to be demeaning. HiLo48's vehemence was misplaced in the McManus INTC, but at least there it was debatably related to the discussion. Here it has no purpose but to belittle wrestling in response to a wrestling question. I don't care one bit about wrestling and I've never cared for it - I just think there is no point in reminding everyone that wrestling is fake unless one thinks they are alone in grasping that fact, so I want HiLo48 to sleep easier at night: you don't need to tell them: if they are over the age of 10, they know already. Effovex (talk) 04:47, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

As much as HiLo48 would like to dictate how things go on the reference desk, it turns out his input is rarely useful. I suggest only people with actual references refer to the reference desk from now on. Shadowjams (talk) 09:20, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
 * A re-reading of the OP's question reinforces my view that he did not think about the fictional aspect of pro wrestling when he posed the question. The question certainly shows no evidence that he did. You may dismiss my response with a personal attack if you like, but it won't change my view. HiLo48 (talk) 12:10, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Seriously folks, the rules of a fictional universe are dictated by the scriptwriters. This is same answer that we would give for a question about Days of Our Lives. HiLo never implied anything else in that answer. Mingmingla (talk) 14:44, 14 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Maybe I should have asked "Since when can fake wrestling titles change hands on fake disqualifications?" And bolded when. Maybe "I'm a wrestling geek" didn't imply strongly enough that I figured out "the secret" when I was four.


 * Anyway, no offense taken. From what I've seen of HiLo48, his good answers outweigh the bad. To clarify, though, the board of the National Wrestling Alliance made the decision, not the individual promotion's "scriptwriters" (properly known as bookers). In TV terms, it's something like the difference between a network's standards and practices department and each show's writers. Today, promotions are much more free to make their own rules, in absence of a governing body. But, at the time, going against the NWA grain would get a promotion deemed "outlaw", and cut off from the NWA talent and money pool. InedibleHulk (talk) 17:08, 14 August 2013 (UTC)