Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Entertainment/2013 August 18

= August 18 =

Identifying a childhood cartoon
I distinctly remember a hilarious scene from a childhood cartoon that I watched around 5 years ago, but unfortunately I can't recall the name of the cartoon or anything except this one scene. Does the following ring any bells?


 * (Two men were paddling a canoe, and were about to hit rocks, or maybe go over a cliff)
 * Man 1: Quick, paddle left!
 * Man 2: Your left or my left?
 * Man 1: We're facing the same direction!
 * (Canoe crashes, and the men start walking on foot)
 * Man 1: Heh, your left or my left. WE WERE FACING THE SAME DIRECTION!!!  --Bowlhover (talk) 06:54, 18 August 2013 (UTC)


 * The "My left or your left" joke is frequently used in numerous works. Can you remember anything else? Among the examples listed in the link I just cited, the closest matches involving a canoe and a crash appear to be scenes from Avatar: The Last Airbender and Histeria!. Zzyzx11 (talk) 16:48, 18 August 2013 (UTC)


 * The TV Tropes page for Your Other Left identifies a couple of gags along the same lines as the one you mention, where a character remarks "we have the same left", or similar (in Megas XLR and Johnny Test). Neither of these indicate canoes are involved though. The same page also lists the Avatar and Histeria examples given by Zzyzx11, but they don't seem to be what you are looking for. The Avatar quote is little more than "you call that left?", and the Histeria sketch seems like a variation on a Who's On First style routine.  AJ Cham  17:17, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

Reserve teams in La Liga - could they play above their parent club?
I was just mulling over the interesting arrangement by which Spanish football clubs have their reserve teams play in the same league pyramid. Now I'm aware of the rule that forbids a reserve team from playing in the same division or cup competition as the parent club, but is there anything that says the reserve team must sit in a lower division?

Take Atlético Madrid and Atlético Madrid B, for example. The rule keeping these two teams separate was invoked in two consecutive seasons at the end of the last century. In 98-99, the reserves finished as runners-up in the Segunda División, but could not be promoted to the same division as the senior team. The following season, the A-side were relegated from the Primera División, forcing Atlético Madrid B to be relegated into the 3rd tier.

My question is basically, what would have happened if, instead of happening a year apart, Atlético Madrid had been relegated from the Primera División in the same season as the B-team had finished in a promotion spot? Would the reserves have been allowed to be promoted above their parent club? Or would they still have been sent down to Segunda B?

As a follow-up question, if they would have been promoted, would anything prevent the club's owners from redesignating them as the new senior team, with the relegated team becoming the new B-side?  AJ Cham  15:32, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

The Mask
I wonder about the origins of the comic The Mask. In the article, it says that he appeared in the publication APA-5 (I have also seen the spelling APA-Five somewhere). Can anyone tell me more about, give me a more extensive list about it, or at least verify it? Furthermore, I found this link where it says that he appeared in something called Amplify. Is that the name of one (or more than one) real magazine? If yes, did The Mask really appear in it? And lastly, I have found sources that say that someone called Randy Stradley helped create the comic (such as this link). Has he even ever worked with The Mask? Can anyone verify this? Thankful for answers. Grey ghost (talk) 18:57, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

Photo ID
Can any fellow baseball fans positively ID this photo as Billy Williams? I compared the subject's face with Williams', and I couldn't definitively tell whether or not it was him. However, I was wondering if Williams had any other distinctive traits (such as socks, batting gloves, etc.), that could tip anyone off as to whether or not it was him. I know this was taken during the 1973 Cubs season, but it doesn't appear to be any player except Williams. (With the possible exception of Cleo James). Thanks! Delaywaves &bull;&#32; talk  21:53, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Billy was strictly a left-handed batter, and this is clearly not a "flipped" photo, so it's not him. If it's from 1973, that at least narrows down the possibilities. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 00:00, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Is this a picture you took? Is there any indication of which particular game it was? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 03:21, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Could be José Cardenal, right-handed batter with a similar skin tone and haircut. See his 1975 Topps card here (the photo was likely taken in spring of 1974). However, the player on the photo looks bigger than José, who was 5'10" and quite skinny. The aforementioned Cleo James and Andre Thornton also had a few games with the Cubs, but the player you have looks a lot older than Thornton (who was 23-year-old short-haired rookie that year); see Thornton's 1975 card here  and James's only card, from 1972 . James was the right age and looks more like the player on the photo. --Xuxl (talk) 09:33, 19 August 2013 (UTC)