Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Entertainment/2013 August 3

= August 3 =

Last Straw
I am plainly and simply through with Netflix. There have been too many movies that I've tried to rent, but they don't tell me "Long wait" until after I've added it. If they even let me rent it at all. And they're not even that obscure. In an ideal world, people wouldn't overrate streaming as they do, and they'd get a bad reputation.

So, I will never watch their discs or stream from them again. What services list just as many movies, yet don't have complaints like mine? Streaming or physical copy are both fine. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Theskinnytypist (talk • contribs) 01:58, 3 August 2013 (UTC)


 * In the U.S., Amazon Prime and Hulu Plus both offer streaming with a large number of titles.  Blockbuster offers movies through the mail and also offers streaming.  Each service has its own selection, with some overlap and some titles only offered in one place but not the other.
 * Asking out of curiosity. Netflix in Canada only offers streaming, never had the disc thing, so I don't know: Is this "long wait" thing or not sending requested films common? Mingmingla (talk) 22:53, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
 * The longest I ever waited with Netflix for a "long wait" movie to ship was a week, although one or two changed to "unavailable" after they became the next in my queue. That was better than Blockbuster, see below. μηδείς (talk) 02:32, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
 * My experience is similar to μηδείς, and I rent a lot of disks from Netflix still. "Long Wait" films are relatively rare. But you'll definitely notice them more if you like old and obscure titles.
 * Netflix refuses to discuss how they do things, but based on my observations, I suspect that they don't replenish disks that are out-of-print. That way, as disks are lost or destroyed, out-of-print titles eventually become "long wait" and then "unavailable". APL (talk) 11:39, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
 * If you want common movies, and you want them now, then maybe Redbox is for you. StuRat (talk) 02:02, 4 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Amazon Prime has a very small/old "free" selection. All other titles you will pay to stream.  Blockbuster is even more frustrating, I had titles at the top of my list for over three months during the four months I kept my subscription, including various foreign items and The Martian Chronicles  They did actually finally send me the Martian Chronicles after two months (Disc 1)  It was broken, which I reported and returned it  Two weeks later they shipped me the same exact broken copy as a replacement, which is why I cancelled the service.  At least with Netflix "long wait" means perhaps a weak, while with Blockbuster it may simply mean never.  There are plenty of comparisons of the two by-mail services.  Also be aware that the "return to store" option with Blockbuster is not available in all stores, and that you cannot get a movie by mail, return that to the store for an exchange and then get another in-store exchange.  Only one exchange per mail-order disk is possible, you must then wait for the third disk to come again (mail-store-mail) by the post office. μηδείς (talk) 02:29, 4 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Depending on your tastes, You might try GreenCine. Their selection is smaller than Netflix, but they pride themselves in a more obscure, less mainstream catalog. APL (talk) 11:39, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

What exactly is an 'intermediate' pianist?
A long time ago, I put the 'intermediate pianist' userbox on my userpage because I believed that was my level. I was grade seven at the time (I'm now grade eight). Now that I think about it, I'm not sure what an 'intermediate' pianist actually is, even though I hear it all the time. What ABRSM grade counts as 'intermediate'? Grade 6? Grade 7? Grade 8? DipAbrsm? Thanks. Kayau (talk · contribs) 12:33, 3 August 2013 (UTC)


 * As far as I've ever been aware, it's a matter of self-identification. I put myself into the Advanced Pianist category mainly because it feels about right.  I know I'm a better player than some people I've heard who've had training at tertiary level, but no way could I ever regard myself as a professional level pianist.  It is not correlated to any particular grade I may have achieved a long time ago. (I had my last formal lesson when I was 17, and I'm now old enough to be my own grandfather, if you take my meaning.)  Over those years I've learned far more in my own way, and from watching and listening and reading and discussing, than I ever learned from my teachers.  That's not to put them down at all, but all that extra experience counts for a lot, and it all goes into the mix, and my brain comes up with a category that feels right to me.  --   Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  21:33, 3 August 2013 (UTC)


 * As a non-muso, I can only say I would think of anyone at that level as advanced, and it's a good way to deter me from ever learning an instrument properly if, after all that, you can only say "intermediate" at your level. If you did well in your exams, and can play in front of others without throwing up beforehand (and without them throwing up during), you could get away with calling yourself advanced from my perspective. Intermediate would be the minimum. Probably you care more about your peers' opinions, but simple ratings should be comprehensible to a lay person like myself. IBE (talk) 08:16, 4 August 2013 (UTC)


 * After reading the replies, I guess intermediate sounds right. Being a teenager at the level of the Pathetique sonata and Clair de Lune, calling myself 'advanced' is just sooo wrong. :P My impression of 'advanced' is someone who can play the Appassionata, the Transcendental Etudes, and the earlier Hungarian Rhapsodies, though that's only an 'impression'. Besides, I've never performed before (save for the time I played Alfred songs in kindergarten) or won any competitions. If Jack's 'advanced', it looks like I'll have a looong way to go before I can change my userbox. :P Kayau (talk · contribs) 09:16, 4 August 2013 (UTC)


 * If one can give a reasonably credible performance of the Appassionata, the Transcendental Etudes and the earlier Hungarian Rhapsodies, they're considerably more "advanced" than I am. I've dabbled with them all privately at various times, but I just don't have the technique for them.  Nor the interest.  I guess we're discovering there's quite a large territory between Intermediate and Professional, which in WP's paradigm is labelled Advanced.  I'm probably toward the lower end, and in a contest between me and someone at the upper end of the scale, there'd be a very marked difference.  I still rate myself higher than Intermediate, though.  --   Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  09:48, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Historical sideline: I don't know how long ago it stopped, but the ABRSM grades used to have names as well as numbers: 1-Primary, 2-Secondary, 3-Transitional, 4-Lower, 5-Higher, 6-Intermediate, 7-Advanced, 8-Final. However, I don't think "intermediate" could really be used to describe someone who had passed Grade 6, any more than someone who had passed Grade 8 could be said to have finished their study of the piano. AndrewWTaylor (talk) 13:05, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

Name of Luis Miguel music video
What is the name of an old music video of Luis Miguel where he is back stage in his room and thinking about his love and I think it was from 1991 and at the end of music video he goes on the stage singing the same song as the music video? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.89.43.122 (talk) 17:55, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

Different last name spellings for the Gensan singer Zendee Tenerife
HELLO, I AM WONDERING ABOUT THE DIFFERENT LAST NAME SPELLINGS FOR THE GENSAN SINGER ZENDEE TENEREFE. I NOTICE SHE IS CALLED TENEREFE AND ALSO TENERIFE AS HER LAST NAME. IS WHAT SHE TOLD ME TAMA--CORRECT. SHE SAID THAT HER LAST NAME WAS SPELLED WRONG ON HER BIRTH CERTIFICATE. SHE SAID THE CORRECT SPELLING IS TENERIFE. IS IT ALSO TRUE THAT IN SEPTEMBER THAT THE RECORDING COMPANY MCA WANTS TO SIGN HER. I HOPE SO BECAUSE SHE IS TRULY THE GREATEST TOTAL PERFORMER I HAVE SEEN IN MANY YEARS. SHE IS ALSO THE SWEETEST AND FUNNIEST PERSON I HAVE EVER SEEN, AS WELL AS THE MOST BEAUTIFUL. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.106.183.124 (talk) 20:14, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

will zendee tenerefe or tenerife-- ever come to the u.s. in concert in the near future to perform? why are her records not sold here in the u.s.? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MICHAEL SELLERS (talk • contribs) 20:23, 3 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Block capitals look like SHOUTING. please use capitals only when appropriate, and sign with fout tildes (4x~). Britmax (talk) 20:45, 3 August 2013 (UTC)


 * In our article about Zendee Rose Tenerefe the name is spelled "Tenerefe", and there is no mention of the other spelling. On what appears to be her official Facebook page, the spelling is also "Tenerefe". However, there is a photograph on that page where the photographer is identified as "mom Jinky Tenerife". So if she has told you that her surname became "Tenerefe" because of a misspelling in the birth certificate I see no reason to disbelieve her. However, the spelling of her name on the Facebook page indicates that she has decided to stick with the "Tenerefe" spelling. --NorwegianBluetalk 09:34, 4 August 2013 (UTC)