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= December 13 =

Come Back to Busan Harbor - lyrics
I have googled but am unable to find the lyrics for "Come Back to Busan Harbor" as sung by Hibari Misora. Am looking for one with the Japanese phonetic original plus translation, if possible. Thank you. SGAst (talk) 05:05, 13 December 2013 (UTC)SGAst
 * I came across this quite easily, but that seems to be a korean plus phonetic korean and an english translation. However, I'm not sure how accurate it is because it seems to be something to do with songs sung at sporting events and if it is anything like English football the crowd will often change the lyrics to suit their team. In fact, all the lyrics I could find for this song, until I gave up looking, were in Korean.  Astronaut (talk) 12:53, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for looking. Yes, I had seen that page but it doesn't correspond to the version I have (which must be in Japanese). This is it: Come Back to Busan Harbor I have just discovered this wonderful singer and find her voice and the song incredible, would love to know what exactly Hibari Misora is singing here with Japanese phonetic plus English but cannot find anything anywhere. (or alternatively if a kind Japanese person with time to spare reads this perhaps...? -one can but ask) SGAst (talk) 14:05, 13 December 2013 (UTC)SGAst
 * Click "show more" on this YouTube page. You can see the original/romanized ja lyrics and the en translation. Oda Mari (talk) 16:30, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

PERFECT, thanks! SGAst (talk) 17:05, 13 December 2013 (UTC)SGAst

Rich Koz Birthday
Exactly what day was Mr Koz born? On the Wikipedia site it states both the 12th & the 19th. Which day is it the 12th or the 19th of March? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.13.16.80 (talk) 07:09, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
 * What do the sources say? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 10:42, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
 * The date of 12th March given in the lead is sourced to an offline article in the Chicago Sun-Times. The 19th March in the info-box is unsourced.  On that (slim) basis I've changed the second to match the first.  Rojomoke (talk) 11:49, 13 December 2013 (UTC)


 * The original day was added with a source saying the 12th. This edit added by an editor with a few warnings for adding unsourced content put the date of the 19th into the infobox. If the original editor didn't make a typo, then I'd tend to believe the 12th is his birth date. I can't find the source online but if you want confirmation, your local library should be able to get you a copy of the newspaper that we use as a source. Dismas |(talk) 11:49, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

The Day the Earth Stood Still graphics
The graphics from that film seem better than I would have expected for that era. Specifically, when the door of the flying saucer opened and a ramp came out, it was flawless. No jerking was seen during the movement and no seam was visible on the saucer when it was closed. So, to me this means it wasn't done with a physical model. This is too early for CGI, so I'm curious just how they did it. Here's my theory:

1) They had a full-scale physical model of the saucer, with the door opened and ramp deployed.

2) They took a picture like that, and then they turned the model around to show the back, with no opening, and took pictures like that.

3) They then made many copies of the negative with the door closed, and manually animated the frames to go from closed to open. I don't believe any other movement occurs during the opening and closing sequence, making this a bit simpler.

4) They play the animation in reverse to show the door closing.

So, is this how they did it ? (Apparently there is a director's commentary track on the DVD, does anybody have access to that, and does that mention how ?) StuRat (talk) 13:41, 13 December 2013 (UTC)


 * I believe imdb answers some of your questions http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0043456/trivia --TrogWoolley (talk) 15:12, 13 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks. According to those, I was right about them running the film backwards to show closing the door, but I was wrong about them doing traditional animation.  They say the gap was filled with putty to make it appear seamless. I'm still skeptical, though, as this would tend to cause pieces of putty to fall off when it opened, and there's still the lack of any visible jerks when it was opened.  Maybe they set up a system with ball bearings and a motor to pull it open smoothly and then used a similar system for the ramp ? StuRat (talk) 06:04, 14 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Perhaps there was a cut. Film the saucer with the door closed and puttied. Stop the camera, remove the putty, and film the door opening.
 * If they did it quickly before the light changed, it would be an invisible transition. If I recall correctly, the shot was staged with nothing moving in the background that would have given away the cut. APL (talk) 18:56, 15 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Yes, I believe you're right about nothing else moving during that scene. They also repeat that scene of opening/closing a few times, making me think they were quite proud of it. StuRat (talk) 12:38, 16 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Piece of cake for Ray Harryhausen. Anyway, I've ordered the DVD from my library. If I can refrain from shooting it when it arrives, I'll listen to its message. Clarityfiend (talk) 22:36, 15 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Ah yes, I didn't consider stop-motion animation. But why would you shoot the DVD ? StuRat (talk) 12:34, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Shiny circular object approaching bearing an unknown message. Sound familiar? Clarityfiend (talk) 08:21, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
 * The message remains powerful after these 60-plus years. Outstanding film. Excellent writing. Low-key, effective performances. Iconic. We're not talking Plan 9 from Outer Space here. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 15:55, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
 * It is a little known fact that the alien was misheard. He actually said, "Klaatu barista nikto." (No foam on my Grande Chai Tea Latte.) Clarityfiend (talk) 08:30, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

Little astrology scrolls?
Does anybody know the name or brand name of those little horoscope scrolls that were once sold in supermarkets and such? The ones I'm talking about were about the size of a cigarette and came in different colours. They were around in the late 80s and probably into the 90s but I don't think I've seen them in years so they're presumably no longer being made. Google isn't being very helpful, but I'm probably searching wrong since I don't know the brand name. Andrew Lenahan -  St ar bli nd  19:11, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Just for clarity sake, I assume you mean this thing. I can't find any brand names or companies that either used to or still make them, but I am finding a LOT of people who are having the same nostalgia as you are, and/or are asking this same question.  -- Jayron  32  04:36, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Were they also sold in vending machines? Because if so, they MAY be called "Starscroll horoscopes"/.  See .  -- Jayron  32  04:39, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I believe "Starscroll" is correct. here's an action for one of the machines that includes a photograph of one of the scrolls.
 * However, I seem to have a memory of one with a somewhat different design also being sold in stores around the same time period. So either I'm imagining things, or there may have been more than one brand. APL (talk) 18:52, 15 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I don't remember anything about vending machines, but those are definitely the same scrolls.  I appreciate the info! Andrew Lenahan -  St ar bli nd  03:02, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

Chinza Dopeness
Does anyone know what region of Japan the artist Chinza Dopeness is from?

Thanks. Nicholasprado (talk) 19:17, 13 December 2013 (UTC) Japanese Wikipedia page says he was born in Chofu City, Tokyo. See ja:鎮座DOPENESS. DOPENESS. — Preceding unsigned comment added by E-Kaynah (talk • contribs) 14:24, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Kunitachi, Tokyo Andrew Lenahan -  St ar bli nd  19:27, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Ava Cherry
I came across Ava Cherry while watching the David Bowie documentary "Five Years". Obviously she has a famous name, but can anyone tell me how/whether she is related to Don Cherry (trumpeter), Neneh Cherry and Eagle-Eye Cherry? --TammyMoet (talk) 21:30, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
 * As far as I can tell, no relation at all. That is her real name though. Andrew Lenahan -  St ar bli nd  02:37, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I thought it was too much of a coincidence that not only did she look like Neneh Cherry she shared a surname and wondered whether they were related. --TammyMoet (talk) 14:58, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Neneh Cherry's real name is Neneh Karlsonn - she isn't a blood relative of Don Cherry, but rather his adopted daughter. It's not impossible that Ava is related to Don, of course, but there appears to be no evidence that she is.  Incidentally, it looks as though Ava is capable of passing WP:MUSIC, but formal reliable sources seem a bit thin on the ground. Tevildo (talk) 19:39, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes I wondered why we didn't have an article on her. Thank you. --TammyMoet (talk) 20:42, 14 December 2013 (UTC)