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= December 31 =

Two Indian Actresses having same name i.e Sara Khan confusion
Whenever I searched for Sara Khan I got the page about TV actress Sara Khan who worked in Indian television channels. Her famous drama was "Bidai..Sapna Babul Ka"

While the other Sara Khan who also worked in Indian TV darma i.e "Dhong lege Manzil Hume" has also worked in Indian Films. Her upcoming Indian movie is "Total Siappa".

There is no page about TV and Film Actress Sara Khan on Wikipedia.

Please upload an article about her so that people may note the difference. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tahir4awan (talk • contribs) 10:27, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Our article on the TV series is at Dhoondh Legi Manzil Humein. The relevant guideline is WP:ENT - in particular, "has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions" (emphasis added).  The TV series is of marginal notability, and Ms Khan doesn't appear to have any other acting credits (she doesn't have an IMDb entry).  If her upcoming movie turns out to be notable, then she'll probably be entitled to an article.  Until then, however, she doesn't appear to meet our guidelines. Tevildo (talk) 13:33, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

based on a true story
why is it that some films which are based on a true story (eg the shining, jaws, mary poppins) you get people who are saying that they are not based on a true story and a work of fiction when what has happened is athat a few facts are changed in order to make the script but that does not affect on the core ideas? Humansizedbeetle (talk) 12:27, 31 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Er, who claims Mary Poppins is based on a true story? AlexTiefling (talk) 12:51, 31 December 2013 (UTC)


 * And who claims that Jaws or The Shining were based on a true story? They may have been "inspired by several real-life incidents" but that is not at all the same thing; the same could be said of any work of fiction. That word "based" is too vague to mean very much in this context.--Shantavira|feed me 13:22, 31 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Saving Mr. Banks, which is about the making of Mary Poppins, is based on or inspired by facts. Mary Poppins herself was a product of Ms. Travers' imagination. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 13:30, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

Science Fiction Story: Babies born "without soul"
I try to identify a SF short story (probably from the 1960ies, when I read it): An Indian (?) Gynocologist notices that all babies born after a a defined day show blandness in their eyes. He learns that this has been observed all over the world and comes to the conclusion that the "reservoir" of souls - which get reincarnated over and over - has reached an end. It was just a couple of pages... Any bells ringing ?  GEEZER nil nisi bene 14:56, 31 December 2013 (UTC)


 * It's not it, but there are some similarities with The Midwich Cuckoos, made into the movie Village of the Damned. StuRat (talk) 15:49, 31 December 2013 (UTC)


 * I recall reading this story, or something extremely like it, but not its title or author (I'm thinking it might have been by Arthur C. Clarke, but none of the story titles in my collection's index [I list the stories in collections/anthologies] seem to fit). I'm attending a New Year's party with a number of (other) SF fans in a few hours, so I'll see if any of them remember and get back to you tomorrow when I've regained consciousness/sobered up/got back home :-) . {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.204.16.14 (talk) 17:23, 31 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Intriguing story idea. I hope you find it out. It sounds like kind of a dark satire on the notion of reincarnation. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 18:55, 31 December 2013 (UTC)


 * It's The Vitanuls by the excellent John Brunner. Publication history here. Anthologies containing it are still available second-hand. -  Ka renjc (talk) 17:14, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you, this seems to be it. I'll put it on my Get-it-and-read-it-again-list. Case closed.  GEEZER nil nisi bene 23:05, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

Candy Crush
Why do I have different special candies available on Candy Crush for my Facebook then on my phone? Is there a way to get all the Facebook candies (which I have more built up), so I can use them on my phone? C T F 8 3 ! 20:57, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

Victor Cruz's last name explanation
Why does Victor Cruz, well-known football player for the New York Giants, have a Spanish last name if his father is considered to be African American? Is it that his father has Latino blood as well like his mother and if so from where? Or is it because of another reason? Victor's mother is not a Cruz. Willminator (talk) 23:10, 31 December 2013 (UTC)


 * What kind of a surname do you expect his African American father to have? Most African Americans have surnames that are clearly British in origin, so they prove nothing about them being African American (nor what other kind of "blood" they may have). There's really no obvious connection between surname and ancestry. HiLo48 (talk) 23:33, 31 December 2013 (UTC)


 * I don't know. He can have any last name he wants to. Just wondering where the last name came from. Willminator (talk) 00:03, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
 * The article Victor Cruz (American football) says his parents never married, and that his mother is Puerto Rican, so it would be a reasonable guess that he took his mother's name. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 00:37, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Except that "Victor's mother is not a Cruz". --   Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  03:23, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Where does it say that? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 04:08, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
 * This item says that his father was Michael Walker and his mother was Blanca Cruz. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 04:10, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Last sentence of the question. --   Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  04:57, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh, I see. Well, either that link is wrong or the OP is wrong. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 05:07, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
 * These probable RS reports the same names    so I suspect the OP is wrong. At least if his mother is Blanca Cruz, may be he should reconsider dancing with her  and buying her a house . Nil Einne (talk) 12:37, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

Segregation of fans at sporting events
I've lived my life in a country (Australia) where fans of different sporting teams are randomly mixed up in the spectator areas, at least for most sports. Attendees sit where they like It's apparent to me that for some big sports, Association football being the obvious one, fans are generally segregated on the basis of which team they support. Which is the more common approach globally. What's the history? HiLo48 (talk) 23:57, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
 * It's not a thing in North American pro sports either. I can't speak to lower levels. Mingmingla (talk) 00:26, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
 * We have an article; Football hooliganism, but it doesn't seem to address your question directly. In England, (Association) football matches at the top level began to be officially segregated in the 1970s if I recall correctly, although I believe fans used to segregate themselves to an extent before that. Rugby Union matches are not segregated. Alansplodge (talk) 11:01, 1 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Having just mass-watched several US college football bowl games today, I can report that it is very much tradition that teams' fans most definitely segregate themselves, although that's mainly because the bowl organizers give out blocs of tickets to the individual schools for sale to their fans. But college football in general, and college basketball as well, really does segregate fans, because of traditional seating locations for the school's students.  RNealK (talk) 04:08, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

There is some segregation in Australia sport. In the A-League, there are nominated away bays where home fans in colours are not allowed. In the AFL, "Cheer Squad" bays are strictly for "active" club members who must agree not to swear or drink alcohol in the bay. Hack (talk) 04:29, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah yes, I'd forgotten about the AFL cheer squads. No swearing or alcohol, eh? Can they still call the umpires rude things, so long as they don't swear? (Is "white maggot" swearing?) HiLo48 (talk) 05:12, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Apparently throwing a ball at a goal umpire ($1000 fine) is twice as bad as abusive, insulting or threatening language ($500).source (page 10). I imagine calling someone a maggot would come under insulting language. Hack (talk) 05:37, 2 January 2014 (UTC)