Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Entertainment/2013 July 22

= July 22 =

Looking for a movie
It's a movie about two group of prehistoric (?) people, one violent, animalistic and one peaceful, appreciative and it ends in a fight. It's not Quest for Fire or Caveman (1981). 193.224.66.230 (talk) 10:56, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
 * The Time Machine fits that general description with the exception of the fight. Dismas |(talk) 12:14, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Raquel Welch in a Fur Bikini? Rojomoke (talk) 12:46, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
 * The Clan of the Cave Bear (film) may be what you are looking for. In The Time Machine the Eloi and Morlocks are the two races that humanity evolves into in the distant future. MarnetteD | Talk 15:02, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
 * The Time Machine (1960 film) does have a fight near the end, between Rod Taylor's character (eventually aided by the Eloi) versus the Morlocks. Clarityfiend (talk) 21:29, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

looking for song
Hi, I'm looking for a song which had a repeating hookline that sounded like "..pour it away". It was out about 10 years ago, and sounded like Collective Soul. I don't remember the whole chorus, but the full line sounded something like "And I can, and I will, I will pour it away." But that bit especially is something of a memory fragment. Googling hasn't helped me. Can anyone help? IBE (talk) 15:40, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Can you think of a song that has a roughly similar melody? Or, if you're good with music, maybe the exact notes? Might be useful in jogging memories if we could (sort of) hum it. InedibleHulk (talk) 22:20, 22 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Sorry, can't think of a sound-alike, so in general sounds like Collective Soul is the best I can do. The tune for "and I can and I will" has the same three notes (I think) repeated twice, with the middle note for the word "I" being the highest. The tune for "pour it away" sound to me something like C-B-B-D (about evenly spaced, with emphasis on last syllable), but I'm not particularly reliable here. Both memory and my musical ear have conspired against me here. I just know it was really catchy. IBE (talk) 01:08, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah, the catchy ones are the worst in times like these. I feel for you, but can't figure it out. Hope you find out soon, or someone more helpful finds this question. InedibleHulk (talk) 01:40, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Rose of Alabamy; Rose of Alabama
Why is there no article about this song? Isnt it an important song in north-american history? 46.115.69.92 (talk) 18:43, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Sure its a importan song. You can always write the article self? --80.161.143.239 (talk) 21:54, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Per 80.161... your the person most qualified to write the article. This is because Wikipedia only exists because people who care about topics write things about them.  Since you obviously care, you should be the one to do the writing.  -- Jayron  32  00:16, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for trusting me. But I am a german, a hun. I dont understand the lyrics. Thats why I was searching for an explanation. 46.115.90.106 (talk) 16:49, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't see any indication that this song is all that important. It was one of many Minstrel show songs of the 1840s with a fairly stock plot. (I get to Alabama, I play my banjo, dark lady comes out of the woods and sits on my lap, I get so distracted my banjo falls in the river - now I search every day for -- the banjo) It was apparently popular with Alabama soldiers during the Civil War, probably because it mentioned Alabama. It was later used in the movie The Outlaw Jose Wales. Like many "black" minstrel songs it was written by a white man, Silas S. Steele (and contains allusions to other works in minstrel and sea shanty traditions). It may be most notable as the possible source for the more popular song, Oh, Susanna by Stephen Foster. Rmhermen (talk) 17:47, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Well this information is fine enough to use it as a stub. How ever I was searching for a explanation of the meaning of the lyrics. It is not easy understandable to me. (translation-services also want help much) For example whats a "rose"? A flower, a girl? Or a "Rose" in sense of an uprising advancement of Alabama as a state? And whats a "A sweet tobacco posey" that is his rose of alabamy? cryptic isnt it? 46.115.90.106 (talk) 18:49, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Comparing a pretty girl to a flower is standard poetic language (The Yellow Rose of Texas (song), my Luve's like a red, red rose, Heidenröslein, etc.) Nothing to do with the state of Alabama at all. A posy is flower or bundle of flowers (like Ring around the Rosie). Slaves tending tobacco is being alluded to. Cotton and tobacco were the main cash crops on slave plantations. Rmhermen (talk) 21:34, 23 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Some sources to work from:, , , , , , , , . -- Jayron  32  01:45, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Nice stuff. Feels to me that the lost banjo version might well be a parody of an earlier work -- take this romantic song and have the Negro pine not for the girl but for the banjo. --jpgordon:==( o ) 15:50, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Comedy and parody were the main parts of the minstrel show. Rmhermen (talk) 16:26, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Indeed. I'm going to be starting studying minstrel banjo as soon as mine is built, and there's a wealth of source material to work with, some of which isn't grossly racist. --jpgordon:==( o ) 18:16, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I'll bet not too much though! Of course, there are songs from my childhood that my children can't hear. Rmhermen (talk) 01:37, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

what is the name of this cartoon?
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=584781058203953&set=pb.100000161911079.-2207520000.1374529280.&type=3&theater. --80.161.143.239 (talk) 21:54, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Rose and Thorn - a "rebooted" take from National Comics on a 1970's DC title. See Thorn (comics). Tevildo (talk) 21:57, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
 * an idea where i can buy the rebooted comic online? if i search on amazone i got 100 pages. --80.161.143.239 (talk) 22:02, 22 July 2013 (UTC)