Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Entertainment/2013 May 19

= May 19 =

TV logos
Should it be mentioned that some production logos on television have become iconic because many have been known to be startling? I know there have been several people scared by them. I have cited a source. 108.0.244.168 (talk) 08:43, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
 * An entry in Yahoo Talk isn't a reliable source, so I'd say no. I've reverted your edit.  Rojomoke (talk) 08:49, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
 * That's fine. I wonder if there are any reliable sources?  I have a difficult time figuring out if a source is reliable.  108.0.244.168 (talk) 08:51, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Have you read WP:RS? Rojomoke (talk) 10:39, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Why would being startling lead to their becoming iconic?--Shantavira|feed me 12:06, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
 * For that matter, what's "startling" about production logos? Does the OP have any examples? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 20:07, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Maybe not iconic, but more of a common fact that has become prominent in the community of fans of certain shows. What I have heard that is startling is the movement and loud music.  These logos have been said to include the Viacom logo known by many as the "V of Doom" seen after the Mary Tyler Moore Show and the Paramount "Closet Killer" seen after Brady Bunch episodes during the first season and the first few episodes of the second season.  108.0.244.168 (talk) 20:29, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Anyone who was scared by the Viacom symbol would probably be scared of their own shadow. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 01:05, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
 * It appears that children have been scared by their own shadow or a TV logo. Are you referring to the same Viacom logo that I am, with the blue V on a light blue background where the logo looks like it is coming closer with loud music; which is seen after The Mary Tyler Moore Show, after the logo with the cat Mimsie appears?   108.0.244.168 (talk) 01:16, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
 * These? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 02:01, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I always liked the Revue logo, which was taken over by Universal TV. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 02:25, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
 * These are the correct logos. some of the ones I mentioned are seen here, including the Viacom and Paramount logos, and also an MCA/Universal logo with the Revue music.  108.0.244.168 (talk) 03:30, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I'd like to see some reliable evidence that anyone is "frightened" by these logos. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 03:48, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Is this just an urban legend if there is currently no reliable evidence? 108.0.244.168 (talk) 08:38, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I'd like to see some evidence that it even has the status of an urban legend. I never heard of this until you brought it up. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 11:59, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't call this empirical or anything, but someone has made a documentary on the subject: http://io9.com/5797378/watch-the-s-from-hell-a-short-documentary-about-people-scared-of-the-screen-gems-logo Helene O&#39;Troy - Et In Arcadia Ego Sum (talk) 15:06, 20 May 2013 (UTC)


 * "...built around interviews with survivors still traumatized from their childhood exposure to the logo" ... "which caused fear and unease in an entire generation of TV-watching children". So that's why I'm so screwed up! Thank you for enlightening me.--Shantavira|feed me 15:50, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm surprised that entire television-watching generation hasn't been offered counselling. --   Jack of Oz   [Talk]  21:21, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Baby Boomers seem to need plenty of counseling, but I doubt it's because of the Viacom logo. Meanwhile, this supposed "urban legend" seems to be edging into "hoax" territory. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 23:32, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
 * (Generation X in need of counselling speaking here) For an acoustic example designed to tingle and awe the audience and to set the stage for a roller-coaster movie experience, our article on Deep Note doesn't mention it having creeped out children (and adults) despite people reminiscing online about shared experiences of being scared by Deep Note. I couldn't find any reliable sources here either though, despite the fact that emotional effects, whether visual or acoustic, are amplified in a movie theater in comparison to TV. And despite the fact that it unsettled me as well, way back then, I don't think its potential creepiness should be mentioned in our article either. ---Sluzzelin talk  00:29, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

COD: UO
This question is for the Activision/Infinity Ward team that developed the Call of Duty: United Offensive expansion pack. As you probably remember (having designed the game in the first place), in the bridge mission (second mission in the British campaign) the squad's demo man (who gets shot just before reaching the bridge) is named Van Dyke. Did you choose the name at random, or was this choice inspired by some real or fictional person with that name? 24.23.196.85 (talk) 23:28, 19 May 2013 (UTC)


 * We do not represent those people and cannot speak on their behalf. We can provide some information about them, but only from third party sources.  --   Jack of Oz   [Talk]  23:33, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Proceed Nicholasprado (talk) 17:18, 21 May 2013 (UTC)