Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Entertainment/2013 November 15

= November 15 =

Who are they - anybody recognizes this band?
There is an image File:Saltatio Mortis.jpg in Commons, used only in Swedish Wikipedia page sv:Saltatio Mortis. Someone said in Polish wiki on our 'Report an error' page the band is not Saltatio Mortis (pl:Wikipedia:Zgłoś błąd w artykule). Anybody knows what band is on the picture? --CiaPan (talk) 09:56, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, if it's not them, this band is doing a fine job of impersonating Saltatio Mortis. Looking through photos of the band online, I was able to clearly match every musician on stage of your photo save one (the most prominent one on the image, clad in green garment, though I think I found him too, just not 100% sure). The instruments match too (not just the massive bagpipes, but for example the red snare drum too). I really think it's SM. Maybe User:Stahlkocher can give some more information, as they are the one who took and uploaded the image. ---Sluzzelin talk  10:44, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't know, they look kind of alike in a few pics, but there's a lot of pics where they don't at all. Too, most of the images I looked at seem to have a different atmosphere about them- and they seem to wear a lot more black. Maybe it's an older image. I couldn't find any variants of the image from any other angle, though- the source seems to be Wikipedia, with a reference somewhere to it being from a live show, but I didn't see any mention of when/which. It is not on their website. Here's where else Google finds the pic if it helps.Phoenixia1177 (talk) 11:36, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, the image seems to be nine years old, and most of the images you find online are more recent. I don't know whether the redhead is still a member for example, in any event he doesn't look like the two redheads you see in newer photographs, but I did find him in this footage from an older concert. Whom you see around 0:12-0:20 is unmistakably the same person shown in CiaPan's image. ---Sluzzelin talk  12:07, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
 * One more point: Phoenixia is right that they normally don't wear colorful clothing. These costumes look closer to what you'd expect at a medieval fair or some other medieval reenactment event. As stated in this interview with band member "Alea der Bescheidene" published by Metal Rules, they all had already been part of the re-enactment scene before founding the band, so it's plausible that they made exceptions to their usual darker garb, especially in the early years. ---Sluzzelin talk  12:36, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. --CiaPan (talk) 11:18, 17 November 2013 (UTC) PS. I don't think asking user Stahlkocher makes any sense, he seems to have left the project. His recent cotribution in Commons is dated on 28.02.2008, last contribution in his home de-wiki 22.12.2009 (ref: ). --CiaPan (talk) 11:29, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Could the same runner steal two bases in baseball?
As fas as I can understand, this question is quite hypotethical, but reading through the article stolen base a couple of times, I still wonder if one baserunner can steal two (or even three) bases in the same play in baseball?

For example in this unlikely scenario: With runners on first and second, pitcher throws to first. The runner at first gets caught in a rundown, and the runner at second manages to steal third. Could this runner now continue and try to steal home as well? (Let's say the defending team are still trying to catch the other runner in the pickle, or that they somehow throw the ball away) //213.103.218.63 (talk) 16:20, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
 * In that scenario, I don't think the leading runner would get credit for even one stolen base; more likely scored as a fielder's choice (with or without an error). If both the leading and following runner were off with the pitch, though, the leading runner could get credit for a steal of third. The classic scenario is runners on first and third; the runner on first heads for second and as soon as the catcher throws the ball, the runner on third heads for home. I think that's considered a double-steal. It's how some slow-footed runners occasionally get credit for a steal of home. But to find the definitive answer, I'll have to check the scoring rules (unless Jayron beats me to it). One thing I feel sure of is that if there's just a guy on first, he can steal second, but he can't steal third, because by then it has become a conventional fielding play. And if the catcher just stands there spaced out, and they guy rounds second and goes to third, it would probably be considered "defensive indifference" and wouldn't count as a steal at all. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 16:36, 15 November 2013 (UTC)


 * No, I'm wrong, or partly wrong. Read under section 10 where it talks about stolen bases. In your scenario, it looks like the leading runner would get credit for a stolen base. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 16:45, 15 November 2013 (UTC)


 * But, scoring considerations aside, there is nothing stopping a runner from advancing more than one base? When the ball is live, but hasn't been hit, that is? Thanks for your answer! :) //213.103.218.63 (talk) 17:57, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, assuming it's a "live ball" situation, a runner can go as far as he thinks he can. Whether it counts as a stolen base or wild pitch or whatever is really of no consequence to the game itself, it's merely a record-keeping detail. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 18:24, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Of no consequence?!? SACRILEGE... -- Jayron  32  01:00, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
 * It's of consequence to the players involved as regards their stats, but whether a base-advanced is labeled a steal or something else, the runner still ends up at the same base. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 02:27, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I am aware of at least two recent instances of a runner stealing two bases on the same play. One of them is quite famous as it happened at a key point of Game 4 of the 2009 World Series: in the 9th inning, with the score tied and two outs, Johnny Damon stole second base, and with a defensive shift taking place with Mark Teixeira at bat, he saw that third base was uncovered; he cheekily continued to run to third base as the Phillies' defender was standing at second base with the ball in his hand, unable to do anything with it. According to the game's boxscore, Damon was indeed credited with two stolen bases. He went on to score the winning run a few moments later. The other instance I am aware of involved Brandon Phillips on August 1, 2007 (see boxscore here ; in this game too, Phillips took advantage of a defensive shift that had left third base uncovered. There may be other instances of this happening as well, even though it's quite a rare play. --Xuxl (talk) 15:38, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Repeating the iteration / "Eastbound and . . . ."
In my family we call the game "Ticket to Ride" "the Train Game". Meanwhile, without reason, I reference "Eastbound and Down" (not Jerry Reed [RIP] but instead Danny McBride) as the quote Kenny Powers Show unquote. I have it on good authority (cell phone communications/emails/texts) that the corporation we'll call "the Home Box Office" corporation has contracted to acquire the creation of a 4th, and a 5th seasons, with an option for a limited (5 episode)6th "season". Please no speculators; Can anyone provide confirmation of my intelligence? As any aside, what does "OP" stand for. Is it either "operator" and/or "operative"? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.240.77.215 (talk) 16:41, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
 * You're safe from speculating, since I have no idea what you're talking about. As regards "OP", if you mean here on the ref desk, it stands for "original poster", i.e. the one who initiated the question. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 16:47, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I think your oddly convoluted question is asking if Eastbound and Down has been renewed. No.  In fact, the series finale is this coming Sunday. Mingmingla (talk) 16:57, 15 November 2013 (UTC)


 * In case your opening sentence is about another section, maybe on another page: Please comment on existing sections by clicking the "edit source" link to the right of the section heading. If you have heard rumors of a continuation then I don't know what you count as confirmation of the opposite but the official site also says it's the final season. The cancellation was announced in a press release in June.. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:08, 15 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Here's just a handy tip: If you are more clear about what you're asking, more people are generally inclined to help you out and answer your question. The only part of your original post, OP, that I was really sure about was your last and, seemingly, less important question about OPs.  Dismas |(talk) 21:49, 15 November 2013 (UTC)