Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Entertainment/2013 October 6

= October 6 =

Name that tune (more)
This is a restart of the discussion which started October 28th by myself. Given the now archived details, can you identify the tune. drt2012 (talk) 11:14, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
 * You mean September 28th, and you might have provided a link to the archived discussion. Since you couldn't be bothered, I'll do it myself.  It's here, but I think that discussion had run its course and that the chances of you getting any more answers are at best slim. --Viennese Waltz 11:55, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
 * September 28th then, I still haven't received the correct answer yet, so This discussion isn't over. drt2012 (talk) 16:57, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
 * What is the correct answer, then? I acknowledge you've given us some extra info, but it's still at the level of a guessing game.  We've made numerous suggestions, all of which have failed to hit the bullseye.  Bottom line: You can keep the question live forever, but until you give us more useful clues, it won't be answered.  To recap, here's what we know so far:
 * bird's name, possibly eagle or similar
 * word suggesting up in the air
 * orchestral and triumphant
 * lot of bass drum
 * E-flat major
 * in middle section, xylophone or marimba repeatedly plays E-flat
 * 120-160 bpm tempo
 * In the same key and in a similar tempo to the Universal Studios theme - here
 * 4/4
 * Not a march
 * Not Irish, sounds more American
 * Over to you. --   Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  18:52, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
 * What the hell; I'll play. It is a march, but what came to mind after reading Jack's précis above was Josef Wagner's Under the Double Eagle. It's certainly a favorite with bands. Deor (talk) 21:14, 6 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Why don't you go that website where you can record something, and hum or whistle that tune that's stuck in your head? You might get a quick answer. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 00:04, 7 October 2013 (UTC)


 * I think BB is referring to Musipedia. Other music identification sites are available.--Shantavira|feed me 07:28, 7 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Deor, it is not "under the double eagle", because that tune is in 2/4 timing and my tune is in 4/4 timing. drt2012 (talk) 15:19, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
 * If it helps, my tune was played at the prizegiving and summer concert of Cumnock Academy, in Ayrshire, Scotland this year. drt2012 (talk) 15:22, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Wouldn't it be easier for everyone if you just asked them? Ghmyrtle (talk) 15:31, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't have their details drt2012 (talk) 19:46, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Nothing a quick google can't sort. CUMNOCK ACADEMY, Ayr Road, CUMNOCK, East Ayrshire Scotland KA18 1EH Removed the phone numbers, and there is a website but I'll just post this link. --TammyMoet (talk) 19:53, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
 * When you do find out, you will come back here and share the answer with us, won't you? --   Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  01:58, 8 October 2013 (UTC)


 * My last guess (it came to me as I was driving home last night); Rising of the Lark, which is the regimental quick march of the Welsh Guards. Alansplodge (talk) 19:04, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Our OP told us it's not a march and the title doesn't contain the word "lark".  In view of the foregoing, I'd hazard a random guess that this isn't it, Alan.  But you never know.  :)  --   Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  01:41, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Do'h! Somehow, my brain had transmuted "Not a march" into "A march"... Need a holiday. Alansplodge (talk) 16:20, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Don't worry, Alan, you're just being temporarily human. You know, those creatures who, when told "Don't do X", perversely immediately think of X.  The later thought being X, the concept of NOT doing whatever X is has a lesser chance of being remembered.  That's why I have always scratched my head when people/advertisers etc say "Don't forget to ...".  If you want people to remember something, why on earth would you introduce the concept of forgetting it, only to then proscribe that very behaviour?  That's why I said up front "Don't worry" .... Hmm, seems I've become human too.  Oh, Velveteen Rabbit, you'd be proud of me.     :)  --   Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  16:48, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

Jerry van Dyke, the Simpsons, and Australia
In a 2006 ep of The Simpsons, "Kill Gil episodes 1 and 2" the passing of time is shown using the customary image of a calendar's pages turning, showing the days one after another. One of the days shown was Jul 27 and the page noted "Jerry van Dyke's Birthday (Australia)". As an Australian who loves this show, I was intrigued as to what this signified, but cannot find anything much with a google search, except of course that Jerry van Dyke is Dick van Dyke's younger brother. What is the joke here, which has <>ed right over this OP's head? Myles325a (talk) 12:49, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
 * That wording would imply a holiday that's celebrated only in Australia. Jerry has always played second fiddle at best. (He was even upstaged as the supposed star of My Mother the Car.) An equivalent joke would be to celebrate the birthday of Zeppo Marx, or Tommy Aaron. The other part of that joke is just making fun of Australia. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 14:24, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

OP myles325a back live. Oh, I see, and it hurt my heart. So we Ozzies are like nothing to the Simpsons' creators, even tho we love the show and always have. We are just a joke to them, and so is Jerry. I feel deflated...Myles325a (talk) 15:21, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Hold on thar, mate. The Simpsons makes fun of everything. And it's entirely possible that alleged holiday was some kind of inside joke among the show's creators. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 16:21, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I think it's a joke about calendars, too. Calendars published for multiple regions will often have holidays on them that are unique to each country, often something foreigners won't understand.  These are printed as "Civic Holiday (Alberta)" or "Arbor Day (USA)".  This is probably making a joke on that as much as Australia or Jerry Van Dyke.  Mingmingla (talk) 17:33, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Very possibly. That could have been their starting point. And then the writers just came up with the most absurd non-holiday they could think of at that moment. Like having a national holiday for Zeppo Marx in Outer Mongolia. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 00:02, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Or Jerry Lewis's Birthday in France. Deor (talk) 09:51, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

OP myles325a back live. Ok, I am consoled, but I find the Jerry Lewis's birthday in France quip quite odd. Jerry Lewis always was and still is very big in France Myles325a (talk) 03:25, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Or David Hasselhoff's birthday in Germany. StuRat (talk) 12:09, 7 October 2013 (UTC)


 * If you're surprised to see Australia as the subject of a joke, then I take it you're not familiar with the episode Bart vs. Australia. K ati e R  (talk) 19:03, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

OP myles325a back live part II. I'm familiar with that ep, and found it quite funny. But I also rem it for two things:

1. The Yanks know nothing about us tho we know as much about them as most of them do about themselves

2. Sink water does not drain here in a direction opposite to that applicable in the Northern Hemisphere. At these levels, the Coriolis effect is insignificant. (Sorry but Lisa is one of my favourite characters, and I often find myself being just like her). Myles325a (talk) 03:25, 8 October 2013 (UTC)


 * A Bart only goes to Australia courtesy of Uncle Sam and at the insistence of Ma Bell. No Australian "military might" is involved.
 * B The Aussies lie, saying all they want is an apology. They then seize him for a booting on false pretenses.  Like the Japanese, they could never have won a fair fight in a declared war.
 * C No effect-specialist named Coriolis has anything to do with the toilets. It's a matter of air currents and the Earth's spin. American technology overcomes this in the US Embassy. It is shortly after this Lisa becomes a man-bear-pig obsessive.
 * D Australia is utterly destroyed by Bart's biological weapon, the American bullfrog. μηδείς (talk) 04:20, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
 * E The Simpsons are still on TV. Damages and House have been cancelled. μηδείς (talk) 04:32, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
 * μηδείς (talk) 04:20, 8 October 2013 (UTC)