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sometimes, why free throws are reduced to 1 for shooting foul?
Question by Ram nareshji (talk) 04:17, 15 December 2014 (UTC) deleted as possible copyvio given the lack of any reassurance Nil Einne (talk) 13:22, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
 * We have articles on Three-point play, Four-point play and Technical foul. In each instance only one free throw is usually taken. Hack (talk) 04:21, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
 * It can depend on whether your player made the shot while being fouled. If he missed then he gets two free throws - if he made his shot then he gets one. There are other variables that might apply but it is hard to say without having been there. Thanks goodness it was NBA because if it was NCAA we stray into "one and one" and that is trickier to explain. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 04:27, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Hack provides good links. The only time you'll only get one free throw on a shooting foul is if the shot is made. If you're fouled making a shot, you can add 1 point to it. If you're fouled missing a shot, you get 2 or 3 (depending on whether you were attempting a 2 or 3 point shot) free throws. --Onorem (talk) 04:30, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Foul rules in basketball are a bit complex, and it depends on which level of play (HS, College, Professional American, Professional European, etc.) is being played. But generally the rules are as follows:
 * You get no shots (ball is instead inbounded) in the following situations
 * Any offensive foul
 * Defensive fouls if the fouled player was not in the act of shooting, AND if the team is not "in the bonus" (that is, over the maximum allowable team fouls, varies per level of play)
 * You get one shot if you are fouled in the act of shooting, and you make the shot
 * You get two shots in the following situations:
 * If fouled in the act of shooting and miss the shot
 * If fouled at any time while your team is "in the bonus" (the other team is over the maximum allowable team fouls)
 * In lower levels of play (HS and College), a special situation called a "one-and-one" is given for the first 3 bonus fouls, whereby a player only gets their second shot if they make the first. After that, it's two guaranteed shots.  One-and-one does not exist at the NBA level.
 * You get three shots if fouled outside the three-point line AND were in the process of attempting a shot.
 * That's about all I can think of for personal fouls. -- Jayron 32 05:23, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

actually i am asking about shooting foul, hack provided links for all fouls except shooting fouls Ram nareshji (talk) 05:39, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm not familiar with the gameplay on NBA 2K15 but I'm guessing it's the and-one/bonus situation where the shot is scored and a single free throw awarded. Hack (talk) 05:44, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
 * This may not be relevant but it is possible to receive a technical foul for profane language. Hack (talk) 05:49, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
 * It most certainly is. Technical fouls are usually awarded for "unsportsmanlike conduct". ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 16:19, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

if team is in bonus, If the player is fouled while shooting and the shot goes in, then how many free throws are awarded? Ram nareshji (talk) 05:53, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
 * One. This becomes a potential three or four-point play depending on the location of the shooter. Hack (talk) 05:56, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

actually what i asking is if team is in bonus, then how free throws are awarded to team, the player is fouled while shooting and the shot goes in? & also i am not asking about what is four-point play? Ram nareshji (talk) 05:58, 15 December 2014 (UTC)


 * If it's a shooting foul, it wouldn't make any difference whether it's in bonus or not. It comes down to the location on the court. Hack (talk) 06:03, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

then what is the use of Bonus (basketball)? Ram nareshji (talk) 06:05, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
 * It's to stop teams racking up fouls that would not ordinarily be penalised with free throws. Hack (talk) 06:10, 15 December 2014 (UTC)


 * ok! is there any benefits of Bonus (basketball) for a team? Ram nareshji (talk) 06:13, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Sure. They get a one-and-one instead of a single shot, so they have a chance to make 2 points instead of 1. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 16:18, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
 * The purpose of the bonus is to minimize fouls outside of shooting situations. If you keep racking up fouls, eventually you give the other team free throws for every foul, so that removes the incentive to foul as they come up the court, and opens up mid-court play; it makes things like a full court press (when fouls are more likely) a less attractive defense and tends to open up play.  Unless you have someone on your own team which is terrible at shooting foul shots, then the bonus actually works against you.  See Hack-a-Shaq.  -- Jayron 32 02:35, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

Why did the Separatists want to kill Padme?
Question by Ram nareshji deleted as probably copyvio as remarked below Nil Einne (talk) 14:37, 16 December 2014 (UTC)


 * This question was asked verbatim at this site as well as this one which were both answered. If you have problems with those answers, I suggest taking it up with the people who provided the responses.  Dismas |(talk) 08:24, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

What is the NFL record for most receivers with a catch in a single game on the one team?
i am sorry that i forgot to mention source of this question: this site — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ram nareshji (talk • contribs) 06:49, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

Question deleted as probable copyvio Nil Einne (talk) 14:37, 16 December 2014 (UTC)


 * This question was asked verbatim at this site on November 25 and this site three days ago. Hack (talk) 06:16, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

what is meant by bonus in basketball?
Normally every foul in Basketball will get free throws, after team is in bonus, what will change in free throws system? Ram nareshji (talk) 08:14, 15 December 2014 (UTC)


 * See bonus (basketball). When you're not in the bonus, only some types of fouls result in free throws being awarded. That changes when you're in the bonus; then all fouls award free throws. It is a common tactic for a team to intentionally foul "with a foul to give" (i.e. not in the bonus situation) and force the other team to inbound the ball, not shoot free throws. Clarityfiend (talk) 12:44, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

After Bonus, if defensive team commit double dribble, so how many free throws will get?
After offensive team in Bonus, if defensive team commit double dribble, so how many free throws will get? Ram nareshji (talk) 08:52, 15 December 2014 (UTC)


 * None, regardless of whether a team is in the bonus situation or not. A double dribble isn't a foul. The other team is simply given possession of the ball. Clarityfiend (talk) 12:48, 15 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Also, the defenders can't double dribble because they doesn't have the ball (unless they drool a lot). Clarityfiend (talk) 07:33, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

After Bonus, if defensive team commit 5 second violation, so how many free throws will get?
After offensive team in Bonus, if defensive team commit 5 second violation, so how many free throws will get? Ram nareshji (talk) 08:54, 15 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Again none. It's a violation, not a foul. See five-second rule (basketball). As above, the other team gets the ball. Clarityfiend (talk) 12:50, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

Earliest known example of a remake cameo
Our article on cameo appearance has no earlier example of a remake cameo than the 1978 remake of Invasion of the Body Snatchers. As far as I could tell, TV Tropes' article on "Remake Cameo" has nothing older either (click on "Film" under "Examples" for film examples). Does anyone happen to know of (or can anyone dig up) anything like that before 1978. (It's the year of the remake that counts, not that of the original). ---Sluzzelin talk  10:53, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Some sources consider Alfred Hitchcock to have appeared in both versions of The Man Who Knew Too Much. I don't know if you would count that or not. See List of Alfred Hitchcock cameo appearances. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 11:38, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Clever find! Not quite what I meant, as the cameo in the second MWKTM was just one item on that long list, Hitchcock's entirely own thing, but (even if he did actually have a cameo in the first version, see Bugs's link) not an acknowledgement with a wink like Gregory Peck and Robert Mitchum in Cape Fear or Faye Dunaway in The Thomas Crown Affair, and so forth. Thanks though, I certainly hadn't thought of that! ---Sluzzelin talk  11:54, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Romuald Joubé played the same character (Jean Diaz) in J'accuse 1919 and 1938 versions, both directed by Abel Gance. Another cameo from 1978 is Noel Neill in Superman who plays Lois Lane's mother, and Lois Lane herself in the 1948 film and 1952 series. --TrogWoolley (talk) 16:25, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
 * There was Patty Duke who played both Helen Keller in one version, and Anne Sullivan in a later version of The Miracle Worker, though it was a year later than the 1978 date you give above. Still looking for others.  -- Jayron 32 17:08, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Jeff Conaway played Danny Zuko in the stage version of Grease, and Kenicke in the movie version, though a) I don't know if you'd count that being different media and b) the film came out in 1978, which still isn't earlier then the ones you've already found. -- Jayron 32 17:11, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Maybe Ursula Andress in Casino Royale (1967 film), which was technically a remake of the earlier 1954 TV Film, Andress had played a Bond Girl in Dr. No. -- Jayron 32 17:22, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

(OP typing here) Thank you very much, Trog & Jayron, those are some exemplary early instances and precursors! ---Sluzzelin talk  19:44, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Did some more research (slow day at work) and found J'accuse! (1938 film) which was a remake of the J'accuse (1919 film) and it seems that Romuald Joubé appeared in both films in different roles, though he's credited as a second Jean Diaz in the second film. This may be a mistake confusing the two films; though I don't know as I haven't seen any.  The main role of Jean Diaz in the second film is played by Victor Francen, so I'm not sure how Joubé fits in.  May need some more research, but if Joubé does appear in a different role in the second film, it would beat the previous record by some 40 years, based on what we found here.  -- Jayron 32 20:40, 15 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Superman beats out Body Snatchers by a few days, with Kirk Allyn and Noel Neill (Superman and Lois in old serials) as Lois Lane's parents. —Tamfang (talk) 09:56, 16 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks again, everyone, for offering (and re-inforcing ;-) these examples. Great working out the detail, Tamfang, so that's one older one in the strictest sense and for sure ..., and now you got me intrigued (and wigged out) with J'accuse, Jayron. At first I thought the remake might have used some old material including Joubé, or perhaps that he provided the voice? I watched some clips online, but only saw Francen. As I only looked at a total of maybe nine minutes (or less than 10%) of the film, I still don't know how Joubé fits in. Love it! ---Sluzzelin talk  19:45, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

How movies are telecasted by T V Channels?
i have this doubt since my child hood, i don't know how T V channels telecast movies, they also insert DVD or Pen Drive if not then how? Ram nareshji (talk) 12:20, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
 * See Telecine. The core problem is that the frames-per-second between film and TV don't match, so they have to play some technological tricks to make it work. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 17:41, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Telecines were the devices used in the past. However nowadays the film production company provides the television networks with digital videos of the films, in the past on DVD and more frequently by transmitting the file online or by satellite, which the network stores in a server. (Movie theaters are beginning to get some films digitally as well, as opposed to traditional film.)  → Michael J Ⓣ Ⓒ Ⓜ 00:39, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

First broadcast of Appointment with Death (2008)
Hello! I was wondering what can be counted as the first broadcast of the 2008 Agatha Christie's Poirot episode Appointment with Death? The IMDb infos are quite confusing; the first date is Sweden, then there is listed a "(limited)" date for the UK (whereas the official UK date appears to have been one year later). Does anyone know what the "(limited)" means (I found the explanation "If a release was in more than one or two cities, but not wide enough to qualify as a wide (no attributes) release, then please use the attribute (limited) instead. In the USA, this usually implies 11-599 screens.", but it only talks about movies) and where (on which channel) the first broadcast (apparently in Sweden) has been? Thank you, XanonymusX (talk) 14:20, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

Who was C Titsek?
Does anybody know anything about a composer called C Titsek? He (or she) wrote a rather jolly choral setting of Rorate Coeli, a text for Advent. That's all I know. Sounds rather Baroque (18th century) but may be later. Alansplodge (talk) 16:18, 15 December 2014 (UTC)


 * ChoralWiki puts him in category:romantic composers (here) but that's probably just some editor's guess as they don't have any information about him. The name seems, judging from Googling "titsek name", to be from Eastern Europe. Very mysterious composer. He seems to be known for this one work only. Contact Basemetal   here  17:21, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
 * PS Could anyone with access to Grove online look if they have something about this guy? Contact Basemetal   here  17:23, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
 * PPS, ever heard of this guy? Contact Basemetal   here  17:24, 15 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I wonder whether there's an alternative spelling that's throwing us off the scent, but I'm not finding anything at the moment. Alansplodge (talk) 17:38, 15 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Since User:Basemetal asks, I've not heard of this composer, and there is no article in New Grove on a person of this name, or including an indexed reference to him/her. The spelling looks like a phonic transcription, possibly of a Russian name, such as Туцек (though I do not find this particular name linked to the Advent hymn). I notice a number of the Google hits are to Slavic-language sites (Slovak, Russian, Czech). That's the best I can do, sorry.—Jerome Kohl (talk) 17:50, 15 December 2014 (UTC)


 * I wonder if a Cyrillic spelling Тицек or Тыцек would not be more likely to be transcribed as Titsek than Туцек which would seem to correspond to Tutsek, etc.
 * Alan: Is this the recording of Rorate Coeli by C. Titsek that you heard? (I hope not, for your ears' sake ). (Sorry, I was listening simultaneously to the YouTube peformance and this MIDI performance. Sounds a bit better when they're listened to one after the other ).
 * Contact Basemetal   here  18:20, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
 * I should have made it clear that my familiarity with Russian and the Cyrillic alphabet is limited, at best (almost as poor as my piano playing). I did try Тицек, with no result. Trying Тыцек just now does not look very promising, either. It was just a suggestion.—Jerome Kohl (talk) 18:44, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Then there is of course the Ukrainian spellings Тіцек (also Belarusian) and Тїцек... . Don't worry about your Cyrillic. You can type(set) Cyrillic wearing mittens as far as I am concerned . I am always very grateful for your help here and elsewhere. <small style="font-family:Courier New;color:#C0C0C0">Contact Basemetal   here  19:29, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
 * The right tune, but I sang it last night at my church's modest version of the Festival of Nine Lessons and Carols. I suspect that it was selected because it is, rather unusually, scored for Soprano, Alto and Bass, and we don't have any tenors at the moment. I was just curious, because I'd never heard of him or her. It seems that nobody else has either. Many thanks for your efforts. Alansplodge (talk) 18:52, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
 * You're very welcome. I am curious too. Once in a while we get a brutal reminder that WHAAOE... NOT! <small style="font-family:Courier New;color:#C0C0C0">Contact Basemetal   here  19:29, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Not to mention the occasional jolly jape. @User:Basemetal: You are welcome, and thanks for the kind words.—Jerome Kohl (talk) 19:10, 18 December 2014 (UTC)