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= July 22 =

In which Movie was this one ?
I watched 'Sea of Love' the other night, nodding off for about ten minutes around the time Al Pacino's character meets Ellen Barkin's in her shoe store, and his altercation with two young punks reveals to her he is a Cop. Now having woken up I thought I had missed an amusing scene, and looked back at the Movie at the place I missed when it repeated, but did not see it, so I thought I might have missed it anyway, as if I could have nodded off more than once - not because the Film was boring, because it certainly wasn't.

The scene I thought was in it, and perhaps indeed is, but could be in another film, is one where a Cop, and if in another film, it could still be Mr. Pacino, is waiting for someone outside a flash school where diplomats and such send their kids, and he notices another man standing about ten yards the other side of the gate, and they acknowledge each other, but within a minute, they end up pulling their guns on each other, but it turns out the other guy was a bodyguard for I think the child of an Iranian diplomat, so all is good. The actor playing him resembled the Canadian born Elias Koteas, who himself bears a slight lookalike to Robert de Niro, but I cannot recall any other movie that this was in.

Also, while I am here, I may as well ask about another movie I have made mention of twice before, to see if anyone else is now reading, or others who have heard it might now remember - a film from about 1987, where a mother finally finds her son in New York, but the drug dealer he is with has him as a slave, and will not let him go, so the Lady calls a street cop, who challenges the crook. This toe rag makes the mistake of drawing on this middle aged officer, who shoots him dead, and mother and son are reunited. It is similar to the David Ogden Stiers T V Movie The Kissing Place, but is not it. Any help ? Thanks. Chris the Russian Christopher Lilly  13:15, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

Robert Webber's name

 * http://postimg.org/image/ffw7tiuz5/ (Private Benjamin's trailer)

Why did they put Robert Webber's name in a box? -- Toytoy (talk) 14:42, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

Pet Shop Boys and photography
I was recently at Pori Jazz to see Pet Shop Boys live for the first time in my life. Right before the concert, the staff told us fans not to take any photographs. I noticed that people were taking photographs anyway, so I took a couple myself too. What I find curious here is that the Pet Shop Boys Facebook page states "Please share any pictures you take", which I understand to mean that the band itself is fine with fans photographing them. Does anyone know what is the situation here? Should we fans have been allowed to photograph them or not? How can I contact the band themselves or their manager to ask about this? J I P &#124; Talk 15:31, 22 July 2014 (UTC)


 * It could be the venue that was trying to enforce its own no-pictures policy. May want to start there, instead. -- McDoob  AU93  15:34, 22 July 2014 (UTC)


 * That doesn't explain why the venue had no problems with fans photographing other bands, such as Hurts or George Clinton & Parliament Funkadelic. J I P  &#124; Talk 15:35, 22 July 2014 (UTC)


 * I'm assuming that the Facebook page you're referring to is the band's official page? Even if it is, the band themselves probably don't manage it and have probably not authorized every single statement on it.  Sounds to me like it's run by a fan or someone connected to the band who just wants as many photos as possible for their page. --Viennese Waltz 15:38, 22 July 2014 (UTC)


 * I found the e-mail address of "Becker Brown management" on the official site of the band. I've sent a question there. J I P  &#124; Talk 18:30, 22 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Perhaps they only meant to ban flash photography, which can blind the performers, and the message got garbled along the way. StuRat (talk) 22:38, 22 July 2014 (UTC)


 * No, the security staff definitely told me that any kind of photography is forbidden. But they only did that during the Pet Shop Boys concert. J I P  &#124; Talk 06:10, 23 July 2014 (UTC)


 * You misunderstood me. I am suggesting that the band said to the head of security "No flash photography", and he then relayed that to his security guards as simply "No photography". StuRat (talk) 17:35, 28 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Their official Facebook page and their Twitter feed both regularly ask fans to post pictures from concerts. If you have access to the internet you can check these yourself. I went to see them at the Brighton Centre at the start of their current tour, and they were asking for pictures of that. Any restriction will be a venue-specific thing. I'm going to see them at the Albert Hall on Wednesday, I expect that there photography will not be permitted. DuncanHill (talk) 23:26, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

Lil Jon free download songs and instrumentals
Is there a website where I can download all Lil Jon songs and their instrumental versions without having any viruses? The songs that I want to download are the following: I Like Dem Girlz featuring Jazzy Pha, I Like Dem Girlz (Remix) featuring Chyna Whyte and Too Short, Put Yo Hood Up and its remix featuring Jadakiss, Petey Pablo, Chyna Whyte, What Gon U Do featuring Lil Scrappy, its reggae remix version featuring Elephant Man and Lady Saw, Get low featuring Ying Yang Twins and its remix version featuring ying yang twins, elephant man and busta rhymes and merengue mix featuring pitbull; pop that pussy and ride da d and ms.chocolate, and snap your fingers.
 * You need to buy them legally off of iTunes or, if they're not available there, on CD. We can't help you find sources for illegal downloading of music. --Viennese Waltz 15:44, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

Louis ("Blues Boy") Jones
My father is blues legend Louis Blues Boy Jones. I wrote a Bio and I had my cousin Phil O'Neal to submit it to Wikipedia for publication a few months ago. Phil told me that there were more questions. Please let me know what information is needed to complete my Bio for Wikipedia. I am Jones' oldest daughter LaVern. I almost have my book ready to be published about my father's life and I am truly excited. Jones, my father was an amazing entertainer in the early 1950's and 1960's. Now there is a tremendous amount of info provided on Jones' music on websites worldwide. Thank you all kindly. LaVern Jones Lemons


 * I added a section title. StuRat (talk) 22:27, 22 July 2014 (UTC)


 * We generally prefer that somebody unrelated to the person in question write their article, to prevent them from only showing their positives and suppressing any negatives. I did find over 1.6 million hits on a Google search of his name, so he does appear to be notable enough to warrant a Wikipedia article.  So, perhaps you could write the article, but would need to allow others to modify it, which may include adding negative info on your father, to balance out the article.  Will you be OK with that ?


 * Also, if your father is still alive, our "Biography of Living Persons" guideline will apply, requiring sources for everything (we want to be extra careful not to make mistakes in such cases, where the person is still alive to be offended). StuRat (talk) 22:31, 22 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Two things. IF LaVern, or anyone else, writes an article, then it's implicit in the way Wikipedia works that others may add to it or otherwise improve it.  Whether the original author is ok with that or not is by the by.  Nobody "owns" any Wikipedia article, and that includes the initiator.
 * LaVern, if anyone, such as your cousin, had started an article and it's since been deleted for whatever reason, there should still be a record of that, but I can't find any record of any article on your father, and I've looked under various variations on the name. So, I'm not sure what these "more questions" were.  Can you provide any further details?  --   Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  23:25, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I have found this, on what I assume is a mirror site. If Ms Jones Lemons would like to leave a message for me here, I'd be happy to help.  But an obvious problem may be the shortage of information in existing reliable, published sources.  Incidentally, it seems that Mr Jones died in 1984, so not a WP:BLP.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 21:45, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
 * That site is weird. It appears to be a mirror site, and it does accord with the feedback reported by Ms Jones Lemons, however I've looked in various obvious places for the original and come up with a total blank.  It doesn't show up under User:FoCuSandLeArN's contributions, or in Category:Declined AfC submissions or in Category:AfC submissions by date/12 September 2013.  Normally, declined AfC submissions remain buried in the archives but still accessible to the intrepid researcher, but this one seems to have been airbrushed from our history.  I wonder what's going on.  --   Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  22:44, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Found this. So, I assume it could be requested for undeletion and worked on further - or someone could try to create a new article based on published sources.  I'd be happy to help were it not for the fact that I'm currently encased in a plaster cast that makes editing somewhat problematic!  Ghmyrtle (talk) 07:39, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks, GHM. Your plaster cast is obviously no match for your intrepitude.  Get well soon.  --   Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  22:39, 28 July 2014 (UTC)