Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Entertainment/2014 May 20

= May 20 =

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 * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Uu3kCEEc98&feature=kp

Hello, when the men sing this song, they must turn down 4 keys ? 雞雞 (talk) 16:25, 20 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Hello, . I'm not quite sure what you are asking, but I think you are asking whether the song has to be transposed down five notes (tones? semitones? notes of the scale?) for a many to sing it. If so, the answer is that people's voices have different ranges, and some could sing it at pitch, while others would need to transpose it by various amounts. If that's not what you mean, please clarify. --ColinFine (talk) 20:29, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

I mean turn down 4 semitones. 雞雞 (talk) 00:27, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
 * This isn't a matter of men or women. It is a matter of vocal range which is different for everyone. Basically every song can be transposed to any key, but every voice has to keep the same key. So when men and women sing together and you want to transpose it 4 semitones lower for the men, then the women also have to sing 4 semitones lower. --2.245.79.201 (talk) 18:10, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

Garibaldi touching things
Which Babylon 5 episode was it where Michael Garibaldi, when visiting his ex-girlfriend's and his new husband's home and being told not to touch anything, once left alone, touches things and says "'Don't touch anything.' Touched that. And that. Touch-touch-touch."? J I P &#124; Talk 18:09, 20 May 2014 (UTC)


 * ??  ~Helicopter  Llama~  20:35, 20 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Season 4, Episode 16 - "Exercise Of Vital Powers" - at 13 minutes 38 seconds


 * and you meant "his ex-girlfriend and *her* new husband" :)
 * 90.244.132.30 (talk) 22:48, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

When did The Avengers (TV series) turn camp ?
I've seen early black and white episodes, without the character Emma Peel, which are entirely serious, and later color episodes, with Emma, which are like an episode of Batman (TV series), with killer clowns and killer robots. So, did this transition happen when they added Emma, or at some other time ? And was it a drastic change or gradual ? Also, I imagine many people hated what happened to the TV show. Was there much of a protest ? (The Avengers (TV series) talks more about changes in dress and characters than in plots.) StuRat (talk) 18:11, 20 May 2014 (UTC)


 * I'd hardly say it was like Batman! It did to some extent parody American spy-fi, and a well-dressed Englishman accompanied by a certified genius, martial-artist and fashion icon rolled into one does have a certain inherent campness to it. I doubt there was any protest, the Mrs Peel years were in many people's eyes the peak. DuncanHill (talk) 21:01, 20 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Did you see the episode with killer clowns ? That material would be right at home in a Batman episode, with the Joker doing the same bits. StuRat (talk) 21:50, 20 May 2014 (UTC)


 * But the execution would be totally different - Steed and Peel have style, panache, good humour. Batman was never much more than a buffoon. DuncanHill (talk) 21:58, 20 May 2014 (UTC)


 * The section in the article on the Emma Peel period gives some more detail: "In contrast to the Gale episodes, there was a lighter, comic touch in Steed and Peel's interactions with each other and their reactions to other characters and situations. Earlier series had a harder tone, with the Gale era including some quite serious espionage dramas. This almost completely disappeared as Steed and Peel visibly enjoyed topping each other's witticisms.... Science fiction fantasy elements (a style later known as Spy-fi) emerged in stories...There was a fetishistic undercurrent in some episodes.... Peel's avant-garde fashions, featuring bold accents and high-contrast geometric patterns, emphasized her youthful, contemporary personality. She represented the modern England of the Sixties..." I agree with DuncanHill - any protests from earlier viewers were outweighed by the delight of those (like the teenage me) enjoying the new style.  This was the sixties after all.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 21:10, 20 May 2014 (UTC)


 * I'm pretty sure I was in love with Emma Peel, and John Steed was a bit of a role model. It was genuine cult viewing among my university colleagues at the time, in far away Melbourne, Australia. HiLo48 (talk) 23:06, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

Two points. First, as the article says, The Avengers actually started as a spin-off from a show called Police Surgeon; John Steed was himself originally a sidekick to another male lead. So there's even more to the transition over time than what Stu is asking about. Second, the year that Diana Rigg joined the show is also the year that it began to appear on U.S. television, so they needed to appeal to an American as well as a British audience. --50.100.193.30 (talk) 07:36, 21 May 2014 (UTC)